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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>,
	"linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
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	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
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	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
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	Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net>,
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	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 0/6] MAP_DIRECT for DAX userspace flush
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2017 08:46:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171017064647.GA15437@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4gtnZu7obG7UwaBq1-fwRZj06HCa=mjBfDKKgfp97nYaw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 12:44:31PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> > While I agree with the need for a per-MR notification mechanism, one
> > thing we lose by walking away from MAP_DIRECT is a way for a
> > hypervisor to coordinate pass through of a DAX mapping to an RDMA
> > device in a guest. That will remain a case where we will still need to
> > use device-dax. I'm fine if that's the answer, but just want to be
> > clear about all the places we need to protect a DAX mapping against
> > RDMA from a non-ODP device.
> 
> For this specific issue perhaps we promote FL_LAYOUT as a lease-type
> that can be set by fcntl().

I don't think it is a good userspace interface, mostly because it
is about things that don't matter for userspace (block mappings).

It makes sense as a kernel interface for callers that want to pin
down a memory long-term, but for userspace the fact that the block
mapping changes doesn't matter - it matters that their long term
pin is broken by something.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-17  6:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-12  0:47 [PATCH v9 0/6] MAP_DIRECT for DAX userspace flush Dan Williams
2017-10-12  0:47 ` [PATCH v9 1/6] mm: introduce MAP_SHARED_VALIDATE, a mechanism to safely define new mmap flags Dan Williams
2017-10-12 13:51   ` Jan Kara
2017-10-12 16:32     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-16  7:38       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-16  7:56       ` Jan Kara
2017-10-12  0:47 ` [PATCH v9 2/6] fs, mm: pass fd to ->mmap_validate() Dan Williams
2017-10-12  1:21   ` Al Viro
2017-10-12  1:28     ` Dan Williams
2017-10-12  2:17       ` Dan Williams
2017-10-12  3:44         ` Dan Williams
2017-10-12  0:47 ` [PATCH v9 3/6] fs: MAP_DIRECT core Dan Williams
2017-10-12  0:47 ` [PATCH v9 4/6] xfs: prepare xfs_break_layouts() for reuse with MAP_DIRECT Dan Williams
2017-10-12  0:47 ` [PATCH v9 5/6] fs, xfs, iomap: introduce break_layout_nowait() Dan Williams
2017-10-12  0:47 ` [PATCH v9 6/6] xfs: wire up MAP_DIRECT Dan Williams
2017-10-12 14:23 ` [PATCH v9 0/6] MAP_DIRECT for DAX userspace flush Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-12 17:41   ` Dan Williams
2017-10-13  6:57     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-13 15:14       ` Dan Williams
2017-10-13 16:38         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-10-13 17:01           ` Dan Williams
2017-10-13 17:31             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-10-13 18:22               ` Dan Williams
2017-10-14  1:57                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-10-16 12:02                   ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-10-19  6:02                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-10-16  7:30                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-16  7:26               ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-16 12:07                 ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-10-16 17:43                 ` Dan Williams
2017-10-16 19:44                   ` Dan Williams
2017-10-17  6:46                     ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2017-10-16  7:22           ` Christoph Hellwig

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