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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 19/19] fs: handle inode->i_version more efficiently
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 17:41:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171220164150.GF31584@quack2.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1513778586.4513.18.camel@kernel.org>

On Wed 20-12-17 09:03:06, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Tue, 2017-12-19 at 09:07 +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 02:35:20PM -0500, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > [PATCH] SQUASH: add memory barriers around i_version accesses
> > 
> > Why explicit memory barriers rather than annotating the operations
> > with the required semantics and getting the barriers the arch
> > requires automatically?  I suspect this should be using
> > atomic_read_acquire() and atomic_cmpxchg_release(), because AFAICT
> > the atomic_cmpxchg needs to have release semantics to match the
> > acquire semantics needed for the load of the current value.
> > 
> > From include/linux/atomics.h:
> > 
> >  * For compound atomics performing both a load and a store, ACQUIRE
> >  * semantics apply only to the load and RELEASE semantics only to the
> >  * store portion of the operation. Note that a failed cmpxchg_acquire
> >  * does -not- imply any memory ordering constraints.
> > 
> > Memory barriers hurt my brain. :/
> > 
> > At minimum, shouldn't the atomic op specific barriers be used rather
> > than full memory barriers? i.e:
> > 
> 
> They hurt my brain too. Yes, definitely atomic-specific barriers should
> be used here instead, since this is an atomic64_t now.
> 
> After going over the docs again...my understanding has always been that
> you primarily need memory barriers to order accesses to different areas
> of memory.

That is correct.

> As Jan and I were discussing in the other thread, i_version is not
> synchronized with anything else. In this code, we're only dealing with a
> single 64-bit word. I don't think there are any races there wrt the API
> itself.

There are not but it is like saying that lock implementation is correct
because the lock state does not get corrupted ;). Who cares about protected
data...

> The "legacy" inode_inc_iversion() however _does_ have implied memory
> barriers from the i_lock. There could be some subtle de-facto ordering
> there, so I think we probably do want some barriers in here if only to
> preserve that. It's not likely to cost much, and may save us tracking
> down some fiddly bugs.
> 
> What about this patch? Note that I've only added barriers to
> inode_maybe_inc_iversion. I don't see that we need it for the other
> functions, but please do tell me if I'm wrong there:
> 
> --------------------8<---------------------------
> 
> [PATCH] SQUASH: add memory barriers around i_version accesses
> 
> Signed-off-by: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
> ---
>  include/linux/iversion.h | 53 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------------------
>  1 file changed, 32 insertions(+), 21 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/include/linux/iversion.h b/include/linux/iversion.h
> index a9fbf99709df..02187a3bec3b 100644
> --- a/include/linux/iversion.h
> +++ b/include/linux/iversion.h
> @@ -89,6 +89,23 @@ inode_set_iversion_raw(struct inode *inode, const u64 val)
>  	atomic64_set(&inode->i_version, val);
>  }
>  
> +/**
> + * inode_peek_iversion_raw - grab a "raw" iversion value
> + * @inode: inode from which i_version should be read
> + *
> + * Grab a "raw" inode->i_version value and return it. The i_version is not
> + * flagged or converted in any way. This is mostly used to access a self-managed
> + * i_version.
> + *
> + * With those filesystems, we want to treat the i_version as an entirely
> + * opaque value.
> + */
> +static inline u64
> +inode_peek_iversion_raw(const struct inode *inode)
> +{
> +	return atomic64_read(&inode->i_version);
> +}
> +
>  /**
>   * inode_set_iversion - set i_version to a particular value
>   * @inode: inode to set
> @@ -152,7 +169,16 @@ inode_maybe_inc_iversion(struct inode *inode, bool force)
>  {
>  	u64 cur, old, new;
>  
> -	cur = (u64)atomic64_read(&inode->i_version);
> +	/*
> +	 * The i_version field is not strictly ordered with any other inode
> +	 * information, but the legacy inode_inc_iversion code used a spinlock
> +	 * to serialize increments.
> +	 *
> +	 * This code adds full memory barriers to ensure that any de-facto
> +	 * ordering with other info is preserved.
> +	 */
> +	smp_mb__before_atomic();

This should be just smp_mb(). __before_atomic() pairs with atomic
operations like atomic_inc(). atomic_read() is completely unordered
operation (happens to be plain memory read on x86) and so __before_atomic()
is not enough.

> +	cur = inode_peek_iversion_raw(inode);
>  	for (;;) {
>  		/* If flag is clear then we needn't do anything */
>  		if (!force && !(cur & I_VERSION_QUERIED))
> @@ -162,8 +188,10 @@ inode_maybe_inc_iversion(struct inode *inode, bool force)
>  		new = (cur & ~I_VERSION_QUERIED) + I_VERSION_INCREMENT;
>  
>  		old = atomic64_cmpxchg(&inode->i_version, cur, new);
> -		if (likely(old == cur))
> +		if (likely(old == cur)) {
> +			smp_mb__after_atomic();

I don't think you need this. Cmpxchg is guaranteed to be full memory
barrier - from Documentation/atomic_t.txt:
  - RMW operations that have a return value are fully ordered;

>  			break;
> +		}
>  		cur = old;
>  	}
>  	return true;

...

> @@ -248,7 +259,7 @@ inode_query_iversion(struct inode *inode)
>  {
>  	u64 cur, old, new;
>  
> -	cur = atomic64_read(&inode->i_version);
> +	cur = inode_peek_iversion_raw(inode);
>  	for (;;) {
>  		/* If flag is already set, then no need to swap */
>  		if (cur & I_VERSION_QUERIED)

And here I'd expect smp_mb() after inode_peek_iversion_raw() (actually be
needed only if you are not going to do cmpxchg as that implies barrier as
well). "Safe" use of i_version would be:

Update:

modify inode
inode_maybe_inc_iversion(inode)

Read:

my_version = inode_query_iversion(inode)
get inode data

And you need to make sure 'get inode data' does not get speculatively
evaluated before you actually sample i_version so that you are guaranteed
that if data changes, you will observe larger i_version in the future.

Also please add a comment smp_mb() in inode_maybe_inc_iversion() like:

/* This barrier pairs with the barrier in inode_query_iversion() */

and a similar comment to inode_query_iversion(). Because memory barriers
make sense only in pairs (see SMP BARRIER PAIRING in
Documentation/memory-barriers.txt).

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR

  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-20 16:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-18 15:11 [PATCH v3 00/19] fs: rework and optimize i_version handling in filesystems Jeff Layton
2017-12-18 15:11 ` [PATCH v3 01/19] fs: new API for handling inode->i_version Jeff Layton
2017-12-18 17:46   ` Jeff Layton
2017-12-18 15:11 ` [PATCH v3 02/19] fs: don't take the i_lock in inode_inc_iversion Jeff Layton
2017-12-18 15:11 ` [PATCH v3 03/19] fat: convert to new i_version API Jeff Layton
2017-12-18 15:11 ` [PATCH v3 04/19] affs: " Jeff Layton
2017-12-18 15:11 ` [PATCH v3 05/19] afs: " Jeff Layton
2017-12-18 15:11 ` [PATCH v3 06/19] btrfs: " Jeff Layton
2017-12-18 15:11 ` [PATCH v3 07/19] exofs: switch " Jeff Layton
2017-12-18 15:11 ` [PATCH v3 08/19] ext2: convert " Jeff Layton
2017-12-18 15:11 ` [PATCH v3 09/19] ext4: " Jeff Layton
2017-12-18 15:11 ` [PATCH v3 10/19] nfs: " Jeff Layton
2017-12-18 15:11 ` [PATCH v3 11/19] nfsd: " Jeff Layton
2017-12-18 15:11 ` [PATCH v3 12/19] ocfs2: " Jeff Layton
2017-12-18 15:11 ` [PATCH v3 13/19] ufs: use " Jeff Layton
2017-12-18 15:11 ` [PATCH v3 14/19] xfs: convert to " Jeff Layton
2017-12-18 15:11 ` [PATCH v3 15/19] IMA: switch IMA over " Jeff Layton
2017-12-18 15:11 ` [PATCH v3 16/19] fs: only set S_VERSION when updating times if necessary Jeff Layton
2017-12-18 16:07   ` Jan Kara
2017-12-18 17:25     ` Jeff Layton
2017-12-18 15:11 ` [PATCH v3 17/19] xfs: avoid setting XFS_ILOG_CORE if i_version doesn't need incrementing Jeff Layton
2017-12-18 15:11 ` [PATCH v3 18/19] btrfs: only dirty the inode in btrfs_update_time if something was changed Jeff Layton
2017-12-18 15:11 ` [PATCH v3 19/19] fs: handle inode->i_version more efficiently Jeff Layton
2017-12-18 16:34   ` Jan Kara
2017-12-18 17:22     ` Jeff Layton
2017-12-18 17:36       ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-12-18 19:35         ` Jeff Layton
2017-12-18 22:07           ` Dave Chinner
2017-12-20 14:03             ` Jeff Layton
2017-12-20 16:41               ` Jan Kara [this message]
2017-12-21 11:25                 ` Jeff Layton
2017-12-21 11:48                   ` Jan Kara
2017-12-19  9:29       ` Jan Kara
2017-12-19 17:14         ` Jeff Layton

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