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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org, linux-xfs <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 18/18] xfs, dax: wire up dax_flush_dma support via a new xfs_sync_dma helper
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 18:51:12 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180103075112.GF30682@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4gXxoLwZUyHYGUN2i71fjT_r=Mf+USYDLKwPGEYco+1PQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 06:21:13PM -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 3:00 PM, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 04:57:37PM -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
> >> xfs_break_layouts() scans for active pNFS layouts, drops locks and
> >> rescans for those layouts to be broken. xfs_sync_dma performs
> >> xfs_break_layouts and also scans for active dax-dma pages, drops locks
> >> and rescans for those pages to go idle.
> >>
> >> dax_flush_dma handles synchronizing against new page-busy events
> >> (get_user_pages). iIt invalidates all mappings to trigger the
> >> get_user_pages slow path which will eventually block on the
> >> XFS_MMAPLOCK. If it finds a dma-busy page it waits for a page-idle
> >> callback that will fire when the page reference count reaches 1 (recall
> >> ZONE_DEVICE pages are idle at count 1). While it is waiting, it drops
> >> locks so we do not deadlock the process that might be trying to elevate
> >> the page count of more pages before arranging for any of them to go idle
> >> as is typically the case of iov_iter_get_pages.
> >>
> >> dax_flush_dma relies on the fs-provided wait_atomic_t_action_f
> >> (xfs_wait_dax_page) to handle evaluating the page reference count and
> >> dropping locks when waiting.
> >
> > I don't see a problem with supporting this functionality, but I
> > see lots of problems with the code being presented. First of all,
> > I think the "sync dma" abstraction here is all wrong.
> >
> > In the case of the filesystem, we don't care about whether DMA has
> > completed or not, and we *shouldn't have to care* about deep, dark
> > secrets of other subsystems.
> >
> > If I read the current code, I see this in all the "truncate" paths:
> >
> >         start op
> >         break layout leases
> >         change layout
> >
> > and in the IO path:
> >
> >         start IO
> >         break layout leases
> >         map IO
> >         issue IO
> >
> > What this change does is make the truncate paths read:
> >
> >         start op
> >         sync DMA
> >         change layout
> >
> > but the IO path is unchanged. (This is not explained in comments or
> > commit messages).
> >
> > And I look at that "sync DMA" step and wonder why the hell we need
> > to "sync DMA" because DMA has nothing to do with high level
> > filesystem code. It doesn't tell me anything obvious about why we
> > need to do this, nor does it tell me what we're actually
> > synchronising against.
> >
> > What we care about in the filesystem code is whether there are
> > existing external references to file layout. If there's an external
> > reference, then it has to be broken before we can proceed and modify
> > the file layout. We don't care what owns that reference, just that
> > it has to broken before we continue.
> >
> > AFAIC, these DMA references are just another external layout
> > reference that needs to be broken.  IOWs, this "sync DMA" complexity
> > needs to go inside xfs_break_layouts() as it is part of breaking the
> > external reference to the file layout - it does not replace the
> > layout breaking abstraction and so the implementation needs to
> > reflect that.
> 
> These two sentences from the xfs_break_layouts() comment scared me
> down this path of distinguishing dax-dma waiting from pNFS layout
> lease break waiting:
> 
> ---
> 
> "Additionally we call it during the write operation, where aren't
> concerned about exposing unallocated blocks but just want to provide
> basic synchronization between a local writer and pNFS clients.  mmap
> writes would also benefit from this sort of synchronization, but due
> to the tricky locking rules in the page fault path we don't bother."
> ---

The pnfs code  went into 3.20 (4.0, IIRC), whilst the XFS_MMAPLOCK
code went into 4.1. So the pnfs code was written and tested by
Christoph a long time before I added the XFS_MMAPLOCK, despite them
landing only one release apart. We've never really gone back to look
at this because there hasn't been a need until now....

> I was not sure about holding XFS_MMAPLOCK_EXCL over
> xfs_break_layouts() where it has historically not been held, and I was
> worried about the potential deadlock of requiring all pages to be
> unmapped and idle during a write. I.e. would we immediately deadlock
> if userspace performed  direct-I/O to a file with a source buffer that
> was mapped from that same file?

Most likely.

> In general though, I agree that xfs_break_layouts() should comprehend
> both cases. I'll investigate if the deadlock is real and perhaps add a
> flag to xfs_break_layouts to distinguish the IO path from the truncate
> paths to at least make that detail internal to the layout breaking
> mechanism.

We can't hold the XFS_MMAPLOCK over the direct IO write submission
path. That will cause deadlocks as it will invert the
mmap_sem/XFS_MMAPLOCK order via get_user_pages_fast(). That's the
whole reason we have the IOLOCK and the MMAPLOCK - neither can be
taken in both the IO path and the page fault path because of
mmap_sem inversions, hence we need a lock per path for truncate
exclusion....

We can take the MMAPLOCK briefly during IO setup (e.g. where we are
breaking layouts) but we have to drop it before calling into the
iomap code where the mmap_sem may be taken.....

> >> + * Synchronize [R]DMA before changing the file's block map. For pNFS,
> >> + * recall all layouts. For DAX, wait for transient DMA to complete. All
> >> + * other DMA is handled by pinning page cache pages.
> >> + *
> >> + * iolock must held XFS_IOLOCK_SHARED or XFS_IOLOCK_EXCL on entry and
> >> + * will be XFS_IOLOCK_EXCL and XFS_MMAPLOCK_EXCL on exit.
> >> + */
> >> +int xfs_sync_dma(
> >> +     struct inode            *inode,
> >> +     uint                    *iolock)
> >> +{
> >> +     struct xfs_inode        *ip = XFS_I(inode);
> >> +     int                     error;
> >> +
> >> +     while (true) {
> >> +             error = xfs_break_layouts(inode, iolock);
> >> +             if (error)
> >> +                     break;
> >> +
> >> +             xfs_ilock(ip, XFS_MMAPLOCK_EXCL);
> >> +             *iolock |= XFS_MMAPLOCK_EXCL;
> >> +
> >> +             error = dax_flush_dma(inode->i_mapping, xfs_wait_dax_page);
> >> +             if (error <= 0)
> >> +                     break;
> >> +             xfs_iunlock(ip, XFS_MMAPLOCK_EXCL);
> >> +             *iolock &= ~XFS_MMAPLOCK_EXCL;
> >> +     }
> >
> > At this level the loop seems sub-optimal. If we don't drop the
> > IOLOCK, then we have no reason to call xfs_break_layouts() a second
> > time.  Hence in isolation this loop doesn' make sense. Yes, I
> > realise that dax_flush_dma() can result in all locks on the inode
> > being dropped, but that's hidden in another function whose calling
> > scope is not at all obvious from this code.
> >
> > Also, xfs_wait_dax_page() assumes we have IOLOCK_EXCL held when it
> > is called. Nothing enforces the requirement that xfs_sync_dma() is
> > passed XFS_IOLOCK_EXCL, and so such assumptions cannot be made.
> > Even if it was, I really dislike the idea of a function that
> > /assumes/ lock state - that's a landmine that will bite us in the
> > rear end at some unexpected point in the future. If you need to
> > cycle held locks on an inode, you need to pass the held lock state
> > to the function.
> 
> I agree, and I thought about this, but at the time the callback is
> made the only way we could pass the lock context to
> xfs_wait_dax_page() would be to temporarily store it in the 'struct
> page' which seemed ugly at first glance.

I haven't looked at how you are implementing that callback, but it's
parameters are ... a bit strange. If we're waiting on a page, then
it should be passed the page, not an atomic_t....

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-03  7:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-24  0:56 [PATCH v4 00/18] dax: fix dma vs truncate/hole-punch Dan Williams
2017-12-24  0:56 ` [PATCH v4 01/18] mm, dax: introduce pfn_t_special() Dan Williams
2018-01-04  8:16   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-12-24  0:56 ` [PATCH v4 02/18] ext4: auto disable dax instead of failing mount Dan Williams
2018-01-03 14:20   ` Jan Kara
2017-12-24  0:56 ` [PATCH v4 03/18] ext2: " Dan Williams
2018-01-03 14:21   ` Jan Kara
2017-12-24  0:56 ` [PATCH v4 04/18] dax: require 'struct page' by default for filesystem dax Dan Williams
2018-01-03 15:29   ` Jan Kara
2018-01-04  8:16   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-08 11:58   ` Gerald Schaefer
2017-12-24  0:56 ` [PATCH v4 05/18] dax: stop using VM_MIXEDMAP for dax Dan Williams
2018-01-03 15:27   ` Jan Kara
2017-12-24  0:56 ` [PATCH v4 06/18] dax: stop using VM_HUGEPAGE " Dan Williams
2017-12-24  0:56 ` [PATCH v4 07/18] dax: store pfns in the radix Dan Williams
2017-12-27  0:17   ` Ross Zwisler
2018-01-02 20:15     ` Dan Williams
2018-01-03 15:39   ` Jan Kara
2017-12-24  0:56 ` [PATCH v4 08/18] tools/testing/nvdimm: add 'bio_delay' mechanism Dan Williams
2017-12-27 18:08   ` Ross Zwisler
2018-01-02 20:35     ` Dan Williams
2018-01-02 21:44   ` Dave Chinner
2018-01-02 21:51     ` Dan Williams
2018-01-03 15:46       ` Jan Kara
2018-01-03 20:37         ` Jeff Moyer
2017-12-24  0:56 ` [PATCH v4 09/18] mm, dax: enable filesystems to trigger dev_pagemap ->page_free callbacks Dan Williams
2018-01-04  8:20   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-12-24  0:56 ` [PATCH v4 10/18] mm, dev_pagemap: introduce CONFIG_DEV_PAGEMAP_OPS Dan Williams
2018-01-04  8:25   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-12-24  0:56 ` [PATCH v4 11/18] fs, dax: introduce DEFINE_FSDAX_AOPS Dan Williams
2017-12-27  5:29   ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-01-02 20:21     ` Dan Williams
2018-01-03 16:05       ` Jan Kara
2018-01-04  8:27         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-02 21:41   ` Dave Chinner
2017-12-24  0:57 ` [PATCH v4 12/18] xfs: use DEFINE_FSDAX_AOPS Dan Williams
2018-01-02 21:15   ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-01-02 21:40     ` Dan Williams
2018-01-03 16:09       ` Jan Kara
2018-01-04  8:28   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-12-24  0:57 ` [PATCH v4 13/18] ext4: " Dan Williams
2018-01-04  8:29   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-12-24  0:57 ` [PATCH v4 14/18] ext2: " Dan Williams
2018-01-04  8:29   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-12-24  0:57 ` [PATCH v4 15/18] mm, fs, dax: use page->mapping to warn if dma collides with truncate Dan Williams
2018-01-04  8:30   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  9:39   ` Jan Kara
2017-12-24  0:57 ` [PATCH v4 16/18] wait_bit: introduce {wait_on,wake_up}_atomic_one Dan Williams
2018-01-04  8:30   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-12-24  0:57 ` [PATCH v4 17/18] mm, fs, dax: dax_flush_dma, handle dma vs block-map-change collisions Dan Williams
2018-01-04  8:31   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04 11:12   ` Jan Kara
2018-01-07 21:58     ` Dan Williams
2018-01-08 13:50       ` Jan Kara
2018-03-08 17:02         ` Dan Williams
2018-03-09 12:56           ` Jan Kara
2018-03-09 16:15             ` Dan Williams
2018-03-09 17:26               ` Dan Williams
2017-12-24  0:57 ` [PATCH v4 18/18] xfs, dax: wire up dax_flush_dma support via a new xfs_sync_dma helper Dan Williams
2018-01-02 21:07   ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-01-02 23:00   ` Dave Chinner
2018-01-03  2:21     ` Dan Williams
2018-01-03  7:51       ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2018-01-04  8:34         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:33     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:17 ` [PATCH v4 00/18] dax: fix dma vs truncate/hole-punch Christoph Hellwig

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