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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@scylladb.com>,
	linux-aio@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/31] fs: introduce new ->get_poll_head and ->poll_mask methods
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 16:31:35 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180110163134.GG13338@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180108104513.GB5797@lst.de>

On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 11:45:13AM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 06, 2018 at 07:12:42PM +0000, Al Viro wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 09:00:15AM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > ->get_poll_head returns the waitqueue that the poll operation is going
> > > to sleep on.  Note that this means we can only use a single waitqueue
> > > for the poll, unlike some current drivers that use two waitqueues for
> > > different events.  But now that we have keyed wakeups and heavily use
> > > those for poll there aren't that many good reason left to keep the
> > > multiple waitqueues, and if there are any ->poll is still around, the
> > > driver just won't support aio poll.
> > 
> > *UGH*
> > 
> > Gotta love the optimism, but have you actually done the conversion?
> > I'm particularly suspicious about the locking rules here...
> 
> I've done just about everything but random drivers.  Which is the ones
> where people care about performance and thus aio poll.  I suspect that
> we will have various odd cruft drivers that will be left alone.

*snort*

Seeing that random drivers are, by far, the majority of instances...
What I wonder is how many of them conform to that pattern and how
many can be massaged to that form.

How painful would it be, to pick an instance with more than one wait
queue involved, to convert drivers/char/random.c to that form?

FWIW, I agree that it's very common.  Which makes the departures from
that pattern worth looking into - they might be buggy.  And "more than
one queue to wait on" is not all - there's also e.g.
static unsigned int vtpm_proxy_fops_poll(struct file *filp, poll_table *wait)
{
        struct proxy_dev *proxy_dev = filp->private_data;
        unsigned ret;

        poll_wait(filp, &proxy_dev->wq, wait);

        ret = POLLOUT;

        mutex_lock(&proxy_dev->buf_lock);

        if (proxy_dev->req_len)
                ret |= POLLIN | POLLRDNORM;

        if (!(proxy_dev->state & STATE_OPENED_FLAG))
                ret |= POLLHUP;

        mutex_unlock(&proxy_dev->buf_lock);

        return ret;
} 
(mainline drivers/char/tpm/tpm_vtpm_proxy.c)

Is that mutex_lock() in there a bug?  Another fun case is dma_buf_poll()...

The reason why I went looking at ->poll() in the first place had been
recurring bugs in the instances; e.g. "oh, I've got something odd,
let's return -Esomething".  Or "was it POLLIN or POLL_IN?"

I'd really like to get the interfaces right and get rid of the bitrot
source; turning it into moldering corpse in the corner is fine, as
long as we have a realistic chance of getting rid of that body in not
too distant future...

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-10 16:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-04  8:00 aio poll, io_pgetevents and a new in-kernel poll API Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 01/31] fs: update documentation for __poll_t Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 02/31] fs: add new vfs_poll and file_can_poll helpers Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-06 19:08   ` Al Viro
2018-01-08 10:44     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 03/31] fs: introduce new ->get_poll_head and ->poll_mask methods Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-06 19:12   ` Al Viro
2018-01-08 10:45     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-10 16:31       ` Al Viro [this message]
2018-01-10 17:42         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 04/31] net: add support for ->poll_mask in proto_ops Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-06 19:16   ` Al Viro
2018-01-08 10:48     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-09 16:32     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-09 16:41       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 05/31] net: remove sock_no_poll Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 06/31] net/tcp: convert to ->poll_mask Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 07/31] net/unix: " Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 08/31] net: convert datagram_poll users tp ->poll_mask Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 09/31] net/dccp: convert to ->poll_mask Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 10/31] net/atm: " Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 11/31] net/vmw_vsock: " Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 12/31] net/tipc: " Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 13/31] net/sctp: " Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 14/31] net/bluetooth: " Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 15/31] net/caif: " Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 16/31] net/nfc: " Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 17/31] net/phonet: " Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 18/31] net/iucv: " Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 19/31] net/rxrpc: " Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 20/31] pipe: " Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 21/31] eventfd: switch " Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 22/31] timerfd: convert " Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 23/31] aio: don't print the page size at boot time Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-09 17:18   ` Jeff Moyer
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 24/31] aio: remove an outdated comment in aio_complete Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-09 17:19   ` Jeff Moyer
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 25/31] aio: refactor read/write iocb setup Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 26/31] aio: sanitize ki_list handling Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 27/31] aio: simplify cancellation Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 28/31] aio: delete iocbs from the active_reqs list in kiocb_cancel Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 29/31] aio: add delayed cancel support Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 30/31] aio: implement IOCB_CMD_POLL Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  8:00 ` [PATCH 31/31] aio: implement io_pgetevents Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-09 22:16   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-10  8:11     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-10 11:03       ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-10 14:59         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-10 15:48           ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-10 15:49             ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-10 15:56               ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-04  9:09 ` aio poll, io_pgetevents and a new in-kernel poll API Christoph Hellwig
2018-01-09 12:28 ` Christoph Hellwig

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