From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
Cc: "Besogonov, Aleksei" <cyberax@amazon.com>,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
xfs <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: fallocate on XFS for swap
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2018 12:36:46 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180310013646.GX18129@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180310011707.GA4875@magnolia>
On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 05:17:07PM -0800, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 11:58:50AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 03:44:22PM -0800, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > > [you really ought to cc the xfs list]
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 10:05:24PM +0000, Besogonov, Aleksei wrote:
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > We’re working at Amazon on making XFS our default root filesystem for
> > > > the upcoming Amazon Linux 2 (now in prod preview). One of the problems
> > > > that we’ve encountered is inability to use fallocated files for swap
> > > > on XFS. This is really important for us, since we’re shipping our
> > > > current Amazon Linux with hibernation support .
> > >
> > > <shudder>
> > >
> > > > I’ve traced the problem to bmap(), used in generic_swapfile_activate
> > > > call, which returns 0 for blocks inside holes created by fallocate and
> > > > Dave Chinner confirmed it in a private email. I’m thinking about ways
> > > > to fix it, so far I see the following possibilities:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Change bmap() to not return zeroes for blocks inside holes. But
> > > > this is an ABI change and it likely will break some obscure userspace
> > > > utility somewhere.
> > >
> > > bmap is a horrible interface, let's leave it to wither and eventually go
> > > away.
> > >
> > > > 2. Change generic_swap_activate to use a more modern interface, by
> > > > adding fiemap-like operation to address_space_operations with fallback
> > > > on bmap().
> > >
> > > Probably the best idea, but see fs/iomap.c since we're basically leasing
> > > a chunk of file space to the kernel. Leasing space to a user that wants
> > > direct access is becoming rather common (rdma, map_sync, etc.)
> >
> > thing is, we don't want in-kernel users of fiemap. We've got other
> > block mapping interfaces that can be used, such as iomap...
>
> Well yes, I was clumsily trying to suggest reimplementing
> generic_swap_activate with an iomap backend replacing/augmenting the old
> get_blocks thing... :)
>
> > > > 3. Add an XFS-specific implementation of swapfile_activate.
> > >
> > > Ugh no.
> >
> > What we want is an iomap-based re-implementation of
> > generic_swap_activate(). One of the ways to plumb that in is to
> > use ->swapfile_activate() like so:
>
> Is this distinct from the ->swap_activate function pointer in
> address_operations or a new one? I think it'd be best to have it be a
> separate callback like you suggest:
No, we don't need to create a new one - the existing one is used by
a single caller and we can easily move all the functionality it
requires inside the NFS specific implementation - it's just mapping
the entire range as a single extent, but the callout is needed to
mark the sockets backing the file as in the memalloc path...
> > iomap_swapfile_activate()
> > {
> > return iomap_apply(... iomap_swapfile_add_extent, ...)
> > }
> >
> > xfs_vm_swapfile_activate()
> > {
> > return iomap_swapfile_activate(xfs_iomap_ops);
> > }
> >
> > .swapfile_activate = xfs_vm_swapfile_activate()
> >
> > And massage the swapfile_activate callout be friendly to fragmented
> > files. i.e. change the nfs caller to run a
> > "add_single_swap_extent()" caller rather than have to do it in the
> > generic code on return....
>
> But ugh, the names are confusing. ->swapfile_activate, ->swap_activate,
> and generic_swapfile_activate. Not sure what's needed to clean up the
> other filesystems to use a single mapping interface, though.
If they don't implement the callout, they use the
generic_swapfile_activate code that currently exists. Maybe with a
name change, but this way we don't have to touch them....
Cheers,
Dave.
--
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-03-10 1:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-03-09 22:05 fallocate on XFS for swap Besogonov, Aleksei
2018-03-09 23:44 ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-03-10 0:58 ` Dave Chinner
2018-03-10 1:17 ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-03-10 1:36 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2018-03-12 22:01 ` Besogonov, Aleksei
2018-03-13 1:31 ` Dave Chinner
2018-03-10 9:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-03-12 21:46 ` Dave Chinner
2018-03-13 7:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-03-12 18:40 ` Besogonov, Aleksei
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