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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>,
	20180410184356.GD3563@thunk.org,
	Ext4 Developers List <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Subject: Re: fsync() errors is unsafe and risks data loss
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 14:24:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180412212432.GE18364@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180412212144.GV2801@thunk.org>

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 05:21:44PM -0400, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 01:28:30PM -0700, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 01:13:22PM -0700, Andres Freund wrote:
> > > I think a per-file or even per-blockdev/fs error state that'd be
> > > returned by fsync() would be more than sufficient.
> > 
> > Ah; this was my suggestion to Jeff on IRC.  That we add a per-superblock
> > wb_err and then allow syncfs() to return it.  So you'd open an fd on
> > a directory (for example), and call syncfs() which would return -EIO
> > or -ENOSPC if either of those conditions had occurred since you opened
> > the fd.
> 
> When or how would the per-superblock wb_err flag get cleared?

That's not how errseq works, Ted ;-)

> Would all subsequent fsync() calls on that file system now return EIO?
> Or would only all subsequent syncfs() calls return EIO?

Only ones which occur after the last sampling get reported through this
particular file descriptor.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-12 21:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-10 22:07 fsync() errors is unsafe and risks data loss Andres Freund
2018-04-11 21:52 ` Andreas Dilger
2018-04-12  0:09   ` Dave Chinner
2018-04-12  2:32     ` Andres Freund
2018-04-12  2:51       ` Andres Freund
2018-04-12  5:09       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-12  5:45       ` Dave Chinner
2018-04-12 11:24         ` Jeff Layton
2018-04-12 21:11           ` Andres Freund
2018-04-12 10:19       ` Lukas Czerner
2018-04-12 19:46         ` Andres Freund
2018-04-12  2:17   ` Andres Freund
2018-04-12  3:02     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-04-12 11:09       ` Jeff Layton
2018-04-12 11:19         ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-04-12 12:01         ` Dave Chinner
2018-04-12 15:08           ` Jeff Layton
2018-04-12 22:44             ` Dave Chinner
2018-04-13 13:18               ` Jeff Layton
2018-04-13 13:25                 ` Andres Freund
2018-04-13 14:02                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-04-14  1:47                   ` Dave Chinner
2018-04-14  2:04                     ` Andres Freund
2018-04-18 23:59                       ` Dave Chinner
2018-04-19  0:23                         ` Eric Sandeen
2018-04-14  2:38                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-04-19  0:13                       ` Dave Chinner
2018-04-19  0:40                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-04-19  1:08                           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-19 17:40                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-04-19 23:27                               ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-19 23:28                           ` Dave Chinner
2018-04-12 15:16           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-12 20:13             ` Andres Freund
2018-04-12 20:28               ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-04-12 21:14                 ` Jeff Layton
2018-04-12 21:31                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-04-13 12:56                     ` Jeff Layton
2018-04-12 21:21                 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-12 21:24                   ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2018-04-12 21:37                   ` Andres Freund
2018-04-12 20:24         ` Andres Freund
2018-04-12 21:27           ` Jeff Layton
2018-04-12 21:53             ` Andres Freund
2018-04-12 21:57               ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-21 18:14         ` Jan Kara
2018-04-12  5:34     ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-12 19:55       ` Andres Freund
2018-04-12 21:52         ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-12 22:03           ` Andres Freund
2018-04-18 18:09     ` J. Bruce Fields
2018-04-13 14:48 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-04-21 16:59   ` Jan Kara
     [not found] <8da874c9-cf9c-d40a-3474-b773190878e7@commandprompt.com>
     [not found] ` <20180410184356.GD3563@thunk.org>
2018-04-10 19:47   ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-04-18 16:52     ` J. Bruce Fields
2018-04-19  8:39       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-19 14:10         ` J. Bruce Fields

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