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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Cc: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>
Subject: Re: fsync() errors is unsafe and risks data loss
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 07:48:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180413144807.GB24379@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180410220726.vunhvwuzxi5bm6e5@alap3.anarazel.de>

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 03:07:26PM -0700, Andres Freund wrote:
> I don't think that's the full issue. We can deal with the fact that an
> fsync failure is edge-triggered if there's a guarantee that every
> process doing so would get it.  The fact that one needs to have an FD
> open from before any failing writes occurred to get a failure, *THAT'S*
> the big issue.
> 
> Beyond postgres, it's a pretty common approach to do work on a lot of
> files without fsyncing, then iterate over the directory fsync
> everything, and *then* assume you're safe. But unless I severaly
> misunderstand something that'd only be safe if you kept an FD for every
> file open, which isn't realistic for pretty obvious reasons.

While accepting that under memory pressure we can still evict the error
indicators, we can do a better job than we do today.  The current design
of error reporting says that all errors which occurred before you opened
the file descriptor are of no interest to you.  I don't think that's
necessarily true, and it's actually a change of behaviour from before
the errseq work.

Consider Stupid Task A which calls open(), write(), close(), and Smart
Task B which calls open(), write(), fsync(), close() operating on the
same file.  If A goes entirely before B and encounters an error, before
errseq_t, B would see the error from A's write.

If A and B overlap, even a little bit, then B still gets to see A's
error today.  But if writeback happens for A's write before B opens the
file then B will never see the error.

B doesn't want to see historical errors that a previous invocation of
B has already handled, but we know whether *anyone* has seen the error
or not.  So here's a patch which restores the historical behaviour of
seeing old unhandled errors on a fresh file descriptor:

Signed-off-by: Matthew Wilcox <mawilcox@microsoft.com>

diff --git a/lib/errseq.c b/lib/errseq.c
index df782418b333..093f1fba4ee0 100644
--- a/lib/errseq.c
+++ b/lib/errseq.c
@@ -119,19 +119,11 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(errseq_set);
 errseq_t errseq_sample(errseq_t *eseq)
 {
 	errseq_t old = READ_ONCE(*eseq);
-	errseq_t new = old;
 
-	/*
-	 * For the common case of no errors ever having been set, we can skip
-	 * marking the SEEN bit. Once an error has been set, the value will
-	 * never go back to zero.
-	 */
-	if (old != 0) {
-		new |= ERRSEQ_SEEN;
-		if (old != new)
-			cmpxchg(eseq, old, new);
-	}
-	return new;
+	/* If nobody has seen this error yet, then we can be the first. */
+	if (!(old & ERRSEQ_SEEN))
+		old = 0;
+	return old;
 }
 EXPORT_SYMBOL(errseq_sample);
 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-04-13 14:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-10 22:07 fsync() errors is unsafe and risks data loss Andres Freund
2018-04-11 21:52 ` Andreas Dilger
2018-04-12  0:09   ` Dave Chinner
2018-04-12  2:32     ` Andres Freund
2018-04-12  2:51       ` Andres Freund
2018-04-12  5:09       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-12  5:45       ` Dave Chinner
2018-04-12 11:24         ` Jeff Layton
2018-04-12 21:11           ` Andres Freund
2018-04-12 10:19       ` Lukas Czerner
2018-04-12 19:46         ` Andres Freund
2018-04-12  2:17   ` Andres Freund
2018-04-12  3:02     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-04-12 11:09       ` Jeff Layton
2018-04-12 11:19         ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-04-12 12:01         ` Dave Chinner
2018-04-12 15:08           ` Jeff Layton
2018-04-12 22:44             ` Dave Chinner
2018-04-13 13:18               ` Jeff Layton
2018-04-13 13:25                 ` Andres Freund
2018-04-13 14:02                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-04-14  1:47                   ` Dave Chinner
2018-04-14  2:04                     ` Andres Freund
2018-04-18 23:59                       ` Dave Chinner
2018-04-19  0:23                         ` Eric Sandeen
2018-04-14  2:38                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-04-19  0:13                       ` Dave Chinner
2018-04-19  0:40                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-04-19  1:08                           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-19 17:40                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-04-19 23:27                               ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-19 23:28                           ` Dave Chinner
2018-04-12 15:16           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-12 20:13             ` Andres Freund
2018-04-12 20:28               ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-04-12 21:14                 ` Jeff Layton
2018-04-12 21:31                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-04-13 12:56                     ` Jeff Layton
2018-04-12 21:21                 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-12 21:24                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-04-12 21:37                   ` Andres Freund
2018-04-12 20:24         ` Andres Freund
2018-04-12 21:27           ` Jeff Layton
2018-04-12 21:53             ` Andres Freund
2018-04-12 21:57               ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-21 18:14         ` Jan Kara
2018-04-12  5:34     ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-12 19:55       ` Andres Freund
2018-04-12 21:52         ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-12 22:03           ` Andres Freund
2018-04-18 18:09     ` J. Bruce Fields
2018-04-13 14:48 ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2018-04-21 16:59   ` Jan Kara
     [not found] <8da874c9-cf9c-d40a-3474-b773190878e7@commandprompt.com>
     [not found] ` <20180410184356.GD3563@thunk.org>
2018-04-10 19:47   ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-04-18 16:52     ` J. Bruce Fields
2018-04-19  8:39       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-19 14:10         ` J. Bruce Fields

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