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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, LKP <lkp@01.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] fs: replace f_ops->get_poll_head with a static ->f_poll_head pointer
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 23:49:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180628224930.GM30522@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFzjUeacfpB8F2_J3rmOv3+hXF2zNNWP4UzdXxWTgD=nxQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 03:35:03PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> Yes, the AIO poll implementation did it under the spinlock.
> 
> But there's no good *reason* for that.  The "aio_poll()" function
> itself is called in perfectly fine blocking context.

aio_poll() is not a problem.  It's wakeup callback that is one.

> As far as I can tell, Christoph could have just done the first pass
> '->poll()' *without* taking a spinlock, and that adds the table entry
> to the table. Then, *under the spinlock*, you associate the table the
> the kioctx. And then *after* the spinlock, you can call "->poll()"
> again (now with a NULL table pointer), to verify that the state is
> still not triggered. That's the whole point of the two-phgase poll
> thing - the first phase adds the entry to the wait queues, and the
> second phase checks for the race of "did it the event happen in the
> meantime".

You are misreading that mess.  What he's trying to do (other than surviving
the awful clusterfuck around cancels) is to handle the decision what to
report to userland right in the wakeup callback.  *That* is what really
drives the "make the second-pass ->poll() or something similar to it
non-blocking" (in addition to the fact that it is such in considerable
majority of instances).

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-28 22:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-28 14:20 [RFC] replace ->get_poll_head with a waitqueue pointer in struct file Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-28 14:20 ` [PATCH 1/6] net: remove sock_poll_busy_flag Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-28 14:20 ` [PATCH 2/6] net: remove bogus RCU annotations on socket.wq Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-28 14:20 ` [PATCH 3/6] net: don't detour through struct to find the poll head Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-28 14:20 ` [PATCH 4/6] net: remove busy polling from sock_get_poll_head Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-28 14:20 ` [PATCH 5/6] net: remove sock_poll_busy_loop Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-28 14:20 ` [PATCH 6/6] fs: replace f_ops->get_poll_head with a static ->f_poll_head pointer Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-28 16:40   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-06-28 18:17     ` Al Viro
2018-06-28 19:31       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-06-28 20:28         ` Al Viro
2018-06-28 20:37           ` Al Viro
2018-06-28 21:16             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-06-28 21:11           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-06-28 21:30             ` Al Viro
2018-06-28 21:39               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-06-28 22:20               ` Al Viro
2018-06-28 22:35                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-06-28 22:49                   ` Al Viro [this message]
2018-06-28 22:55                     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-06-28 23:37                       ` Al Viro
2018-06-29  0:13                         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-06-29 13:29               ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-29 13:40                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-06-29 13:28             ` Christoph Hellwig

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