From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Jeremy Allison <jra@samba.org>, Steve French <smfrench@gmail.com>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
ebiggers@kernel.org,
samba-technical <samba-technical@lists.samba.org>
Subject: Re: Streams support in Linux
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 19:45:00 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180827184459.GC6515@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180827182143.GB24544@bombadil.infradead.org>
On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:21:43AM -0700, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:05:31AM -0700, Jeremy Allison wrote:
> > I can't think of a *single* case where a stream adds more
> > utility than an EA used in the same case.
> >
> > I don't want theoretical "well it would be nice if..",
> > I want clear "we couldn't have done it any other way"
> > kinds of things.
>
> I started this thread with such an example. The fs-verity patch proposed
> wants to store hundreds of megabytes of data associated with a particular
> file. The current solution is to append it to the end of the data then
> magic to set i_size lower but not remove the data from the file like a
> truncate would. Then more magic to read that data.
>
> It can't be stored in an xattr; xattrs are limited to 64k in size.
> And you have to read them / write them all-in-one-go; you can't read
> a little bit of them. How would you solve the fs-verity problem with
> less magic?
* create a subdirectory in root called e.g. .turdis
* prohibit lookups of that after mount has done the initial one and got a dentry
for it
* kernel-side, do O_TEMPFILE open, crap into it and link it in /.turdis/pile#42
* put that 42 into xattrs of the file that has served as, er, nutrient source.
No fs structure changes needed...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-08-27 22:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-08-25 13:51 Streams support in Linux Matthew Wilcox
2018-08-25 14:47 ` Al Viro
2018-08-25 15:51 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-08-25 18:00 ` Al Viro
2018-08-25 20:57 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-08-25 22:36 ` Al Viro
2018-08-26 1:03 ` Steve French
2018-08-27 17:05 ` Jeremy Allison
2018-08-27 17:41 ` Jeremy Allison
2018-08-27 18:21 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-08-27 18:45 ` Al Viro [this message]
2018-08-27 19:06 ` Jeremy Allison
2018-08-28 0:45 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-08-28 1:07 ` Steve French
2018-08-28 18:12 ` Jeremy Allison
2018-08-28 18:32 ` Steve French
2018-08-28 18:40 ` Jeremy Allison
2018-08-28 19:43 ` Steve French
2018-08-28 19:47 ` Jeremy Allison
2018-08-28 20:43 ` Steve French
2018-08-28 20:47 ` Jeremy Allison
2018-08-28 20:51 ` Steve French
2018-08-28 21:19 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2018-08-28 21:22 ` Jeremy Allison
2018-08-28 21:23 ` Steve French
2018-08-29 5:13 ` Ralph Böhme
2018-08-29 13:46 ` Tom Talpey
2018-08-29 13:54 ` Aurélien Aptel
2018-08-29 15:02 ` Tom Talpey
2018-08-29 16:00 ` Jeremy Allison
2018-08-29 15:59 ` Jeremy Allison
2018-08-29 18:52 ` Andreas Dilger
2018-08-26 20:30 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-08-25 16:25 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-08-27 16:33 ` Jeremy Allison
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2018-09-20 2:06 Shahbaz Youssefi
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