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From: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
To: Bob Liu <bob.liu@oracle.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Allison Henderson <allison.henderson@oracle.com>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	martin.petersen@oracle.com, shirley.ma@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 0/7] Block/XFS: Support alternative mirror device retry
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2018 20:30:15 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181210043015.GS24487@magnolia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f7bf5329-e756-1edb-af3f-41aca02691fe@oracle.com>

On Sat, Dec 08, 2018 at 10:49:44PM +0800, Bob Liu wrote:
> On 11/28/18 3:45 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 04:33:03PM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> >> 	- how does propagation through stacked layers work?
> > 
> > The only way it works is by each layering driving it.  Thus my
> > recommendation above bilding on your earlier one to use an index
> > that is filled by the driver at I/O completion time.
> > 
> > E.g.
> > 
> > 	bio_init:		bi_leg = -1
> > 
> > 	raid1:			submit bio to lower driver
> > 	raid 1 completion:	set bi_leg to 0 or 1
> > 
> > Now if we want to allow stacking we need to save/restore bi_leg
> > before submitting to the underlying device.  Which is possible,
> > but quite a bit of work in the drivers.
> > 
> 
> I found it's still very challenge while writing the code.
> save/restore bi_leg may not enough because the drivers don't know how to do fs-metadata verify.
> 
> E.g two layer raid1 stacking
> 
> fs:                  md0(copies:2)
>                      /          \
> layer1/raid1   md1(copies:2)    md2(copies:2)
>                   /    \          /     \
> layer2/raid1   dev0   dev1      dev2    dev3
> 
> Assume dev2 is corrupted
>  => md2: don't know how to do fs-metadata verify. 
>    => md0: fs verify fail, retry md1(preserve md2).
> Then md2 will never be retried even dev3 may also has the right copy.
> Unless the upper layer device(md0) can know the amount of copy is 4 instead of 2? 
> And need a way to handle the mapping.
> Did I miss something? Thanks!

<shrug> It seems reasonable to me that the raid1 layer should set the
number of retries to (number of raid1 mirrors) * min(retry count of all
mirrors) so that the upper layer device (md0) would advertise 4 retry
possibilities instead of 2.

--D


> -Bob
> 
> >> 	- is it generic/abstract enough to be able to work with
> >> 	  RAID5/6 to trigger verification/recovery from the parity
> >> 	  information in the stripe?
> > 
> > If we get the non -1 bi_leg for paritity raid this is an inidicator
> > that parity rebuild needs to happen.  For multi-parity setups we could
> > also use different levels there.
> > 
> 

      reply	other threads:[~2018-12-10  4:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-28  3:49 [RFC PATCH v1 0/7] Block/XFS: Support alternative mirror device retry Allison Henderson
2018-11-28  3:49 ` [PATCH v1 1/7] block: add nr_mirrors to request_queue Allison Henderson
2018-11-28  3:49 ` [PATCH v1 2/7] block: expand write_hint of bio/request to rw_hint Allison Henderson
2018-11-28  3:49 ` [PATCH v1 3/7] md: raid1: handle bi_rw_hint accordingly Allison Henderson
2018-11-28  3:49 ` [PATCH v1 4/7] xfs: Add b_rw_hint to xfs_buf Allison Henderson
2018-11-28  5:03   ` Dave Chinner
2018-11-28  3:49 ` [PATCH v1 5/7] xfs: Add device retry Allison Henderson
2018-11-28  5:08   ` Dave Chinner
2018-11-28  5:22     ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-11-28  5:38       ` Dave Chinner
2018-11-28  7:35     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-28 12:41       ` Bob Liu
2018-11-28 16:47         ` Allison Henderson
2018-11-28  3:49 ` [PATCH v1 6/7] xfs: Rewrite retried read Allison Henderson
2018-11-28  5:17   ` Dave Chinner
2018-11-28  5:26     ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-11-28  5:40       ` Dave Chinner
2018-11-28  3:49 ` [PATCH v1 7/7] xfs: Add tracepoints and logging to alternate device retry Allison Henderson
2018-11-28  5:33 ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/7] Block/XFS: Support alternative mirror " Dave Chinner
2018-11-28  5:49   ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-11-28  6:30     ` Dave Chinner
2018-11-28  7:15       ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-11-28 19:38     ` Andreas Dilger
2018-11-28  7:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-28  7:46     ` Dave Chinner
2018-11-28  7:51       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-28  7:45   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-12-08 14:49     ` Bob Liu
2018-12-10  4:30       ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]

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