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From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Cc: "Tobin C. Harding" <me@tobin.cc>, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: dcache locking question
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 10:38:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190315173819.GB77949@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190315015021.GU2217@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>

On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 01:50:21AM +0000, Al Viro wrote:
> 
> If it fails, we call __lock_parent().  Which
> 	* grabs RCU lock
> 	* drops ->d_lock (now we are not holding ->d_lock
> on anything).
> 	* fetches ->d_parent.  Note the READ_ONCE() there -
> it's *NOT* stable (no ->d_lock held).  We can't expect
> that ->d_parent won't change or that the reference it used
> to contribute to parent's refcount is there anymore; as
> the matter of fact, the only thing that prevents outright
> _freeing_ of the object 'parent' points to is rcu_read_lock()
> and RCU delay between dropping the last reference and
> actual freeing of the sucker.  rcu_read_lock() is there,
> though, which makes it safe to grab ->d_lock on 'parent'.
> 
> That 'parent' might very well have nothing to do with our
> dentry by now.  We can check if it's equal to its
> ->d_parent, though.  dentry->d_parent is *NOT* stable
> at that point.  It might be changing right now.
> 
> However, the first store to dentry->d_parent making it
> not equal to parent would have been done under parent->d_lock.
> And since we are holding parent->d_lock, we won't miss that
> store.  We might miss subsequent ones, but if we observe
> dentry->d_parent == parent, we know that it's stable.  And
> if we see dentry->d_parent != parent, we know that dentry
> has moved around and we need to retry anyway.

Why isn't it necessary to use READ_ONCE(dentry->d_parent) here?

	if (unlikely(parent != dentry->d_parent)) {

Suppose 'parent' is 0xAAAABBBB, and 'dentry->d_parent' is 0xAAAAAAAA and is
concurrently changed to 0xBBBBBBBB.

d_parent could be read in two parts, 0xAAAA then 0xBBBB, resulting in it
appearing that d_parent == 0xAAAABBBB == parent.

Yes it won't really be compiled as that in practice, but I thought the point of
READ_ONCE() is to *guarantee* it's really done right...

- Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-15 17:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-14 22:56 dcache locking question Tobin C. Harding
2019-03-14 23:09 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-03-15  1:38   ` Tobin C. Harding
2019-03-14 23:19 ` Tobin C. Harding
2019-03-15  1:50   ` Al Viro
2019-03-15 17:38     ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2019-03-15 18:54       ` Al Viro
2019-03-16 22:31         ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-03-17  0:18           ` Al Viro
2019-03-17  0:50             ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-03-17  2:20               ` James Bottomley
2019-03-17  3:06                 ` Al Viro
2019-03-17  4:23                   ` James Bottomley
2019-03-18  0:35                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-03-18 16:26                       ` James Bottomley
2019-03-18 17:11                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-03-19 15:45                           ` Paul E. McKenney

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