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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: syzbot <syzbot+b70f2aabc707c69c9239@syzkaller.appspotmail.com>,
	chanho.min@lge.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pavel@ucw.cz,
	rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com, syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: WARNING: syz-executor still has locks held!
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:30:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190320173041.GE21673@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190320151242.GC8696@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 03/20, Michal Hocko wrote:
>
> [Cc Ingo and Chanho Min - the thread starts here
> http://lkml.kernel.org/r/0000000000004cdec6058485b2ce@google.com]
>
> On Wed 20-03-19 16:00:54, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 03/20, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed 20-03-19 14:24:11, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > > On 03/20, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes we do hold the cgred mutex while calling freezable_schedule but why
> > > > > are we getting a warning is not really clear to me. The task should be
> > > > > hidden from the freezer so why do we warn at all?
> > > >
> > > > try_to_freeze() calls debug_check_no_locks_held() and this makes sense.
> > >
> > > Yes it does. But it already ignores PF_NOFREEZE tasks and I fail to see
> > > why is PF_FREEZER_SKIP any different.
> >
> > But they differ. PF_NOFREEZE is a "sticky" flag for kthreads. Set by default,
> > cleared by set_freezable() if you want a freezable kthread.
> >
> > PF_FREEZER_SKIP means that a sleeping freezable task will call try_to_freeze()
> > right after schedule() returns, so try_to_freeze_tasks() can safely count it as
> > "already frozen".
>
> But the fundamental semantic is the same right? Both might be sitting on
> locks that might interfere with other tasks and we should be _extra_
> careful when using them. In an ideal world, none of them is really
> needed.

Ah, it seems that we misunderstood each other... see below.

> So my question remains. Can we drop the warning for PF_FREEZER_SKIP
> tasks as well?

But why? It is obviously wrong to call try_to_freeze() with a lock held.

Probably you meant the

	if (!(current->flags & PF_NOFREEZE))

check in try_to_freeze() when you said "already ignores PF_NOFREEZE tasks".

I am not sure we actually need this check, a PF_NOFREEZE kthread shouldn't
call try_to_freeze() at least directly.

However, note that freezing() will return false if PF_NOFREEZE is set, so
try_to_freeze() is nop in this case. Probably this is why PF_NOFREEZE is
also checked before debug_check_no_locks_held().

> > > as removing the cgred is way way too complicated.
> >
> > We need to do this anyway, this leads to other more serious problems...
>
> Yes but this is far away and it doesn't really seem like a stable tree
> material

strace -f can hang ;) so this is the stable material.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-20 17:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-24 17:40 WARNING: syz-executor still has locks held! syzbot
2019-03-20 12:24 ` syzbot
2019-03-20 13:16   ` Michal Hocko
2019-03-20 13:24     ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-03-20 13:29       ` Michal Hocko
2019-03-20 15:00         ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-03-20 15:12           ` Michal Hocko
2019-03-20 17:30             ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2019-03-20 19:45               ` Michal Hocko
2019-03-20 20:32                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-03-21 17:28                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-03-22 10:36                     ` Michal Hocko
2019-03-22 10:35               ` Pavel Machek
2019-03-20 13:18   ` Oleg Nesterov

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