From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: syzbot <syzbot+7a8ba368b47fdefca61e@syzkaller.appspotmail.com>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
syzkaller-bugs <syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: KASAN: use-after-free Read in path_lookupat
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 23:37:32 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190325233731.GS2217@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wj+-e=X9cvvNwc5+QuvBOyYT7OtZTBzy-Wg8zGrUwxSbw@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 02:45:00PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 2:14 PM Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe, but we really need to come up with sane documentation on the
> > entire drop_inode/evict_inode/destroy_inode/rcu_destroy_inode
> > group ;-/
>
> Yeah.
>
> I actually think the "destroy_inode/rcu_destroy_inode" part is the
> simplest one to understand: it's just tearing down the inode, and the
> RCU part is (obviously, as shown by this thread) somewhat subtle, but
> at the same time not really all that hard to explain: "inodes that can
> be looked up through RCU lookup need to be destroyed with RCU delay".
... with at least "but remember that call_rcu()-scheduled stuff runs in
softirq, so there's a limit to what you can defer there; furthermore,
there are implications for any spinlocks taken in that callback".
> I think drop_inode->evict_inode is arguably the much more subtle
> stuff. That's the "we're not destroying things, we're making decisions
> about the state" kind of thing.
It's worse than that - another bloody subtle question is the location
of clear_inode() wrt the other work done in ->evict_inode() ;-/
> And we actually don't have any documentation at all for those two.
> Well, there's the "porting" thing, but..
>
> > And I want to understand the writeback-related issues
> > in ocfs2 and f2fs - the current kludges in those smell fishy.
>
> I'm assuming you're talking about exactly that drop_inode() kind of subtlety.
Yes.
> At least for ocfs2, the whole "rcu_destroy_inode()" patch I sent out
> would simplify things a lot. *All* that the ocfs2_destroy_inode()
> function does is to schedule the inode freeing for RCU delay.
>
> Assuming my patch is fine (as mentioned, it was entirely untested),
> that patch would actually simplify that a lot. Get rid of
> ocfs2_destroy_inode() entirely, and just make
> ocfs2_rcu_destroy_inode() do that kmem_cache_free(). Mucho clean-up
> (we have that ocfs2_rcu_destroy_inode() currently as
> ocfs2_i_callback(), but with the ugly rcu-head interface).
Sure, but I wonder if cleaner solution (if any) for whatever is going
on in their drop_inode/evict_inode area might spill into destroy_inode...
I certainly agree that having destroy_inode consist just of call_rcu()
is very common. FWIW, non-trivial exceptions from that pattern are:
fs/afs/super.c:673:static void afs_destroy_inode(struct inode *inode)
fs/btrfs/inode.c:9215:void btrfs_destroy_inode(struct inode *inode)
fs/btrfs/inode.c:9202:void btrfs_test_destroy_inode(struct inode *inode)
fs/ceph/inode.c:530:void ceph_destroy_inode(struct inode *inode)
fs/ecryptfs/super.c:88:static void ecryptfs_destroy_inode(struct inode *inode)
fs/ext4/super.c:1106:static void ext4_destroy_inode(struct inode *inode)
fs/inode.c:228:void free_inode_nonrcu(struct inode *inode)
fs/fuse/inode.c:116:static void fuse_destroy_inode(struct inode *inode)
fs/hugetlbfs/inode.c:1052:static void hugetlbfs_destroy_inode(struct inode *inode)
fs/jfs/super.c:134:static void jfs_destroy_inode(struct inode *inode)
fs/ntfs/inode.c:341:void ntfs_destroy_big_inode(struct inode *inode)
fs/overlayfs/super.c:200:static void ovl_destroy_inode(struct inode *inode)
mm/shmem.c:3646:static void shmem_destroy_inode(struct inode *inode)
net/socket.c:266:static void sock_destroy_inode(struct inode *inode)
fs/ubifs/super.c:282:static void ubifs_destroy_inode(struct inode *inode)
fs/xfs/xfs_super.c:969:xfs_fs_destroy_inode(
Some of those could convert to that pattern, so it's even fewer than
that. And getting rid of container_of in those callbacks would be
nice too. One obvious observation, though - we want the actual
fixes to go before any method changes, for backporting reasons.
For debugfs it's clearly "use default ->evict_inode(), have explicit
->destroy_inode() using free_inode_nonrcu()" - there we have nothing
else done in ->evict_inode() and kfree is obviously safe in softirq.
I'll post that (or push to vfs.git#fixes), along with minimal fixes
for other 3. If bpf_any_put() is softirq-safe, we'll have the full
set for -stable and the rest could be done on top of that.
Won't solve the documetation problem, unfortunately ;-/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-03-25 23:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-11-28 17:40 KASAN: use-after-free Read in path_lookupat syzbot
2019-03-25 0:44 ` syzbot
2019-03-25 1:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-25 1:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-25 4:57 ` Al Viro
2019-03-25 9:15 ` Daniel Borkmann
2019-03-25 11:11 ` Al Viro
2019-03-25 11:17 ` Al Viro
2019-03-25 11:21 ` Daniel Borkmann
2019-03-25 18:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-25 19:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-25 21:14 ` Al Viro
2019-03-25 21:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-25 22:04 ` Daniel Borkmann
2019-03-25 22:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-25 22:41 ` Daniel Borkmann
2019-03-25 22:49 ` Al Viro
2019-03-25 23:37 ` Al Viro [this message]
2019-03-25 23:44 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-03-26 0:21 ` Al Viro
2019-03-26 1:38 ` ceph: fix use-after-free on symlink traversal Al Viro
2019-03-26 1:39 ` jffs2: " Al Viro
2019-03-26 1:40 ` ubifs: " Al Viro
2019-03-26 1:43 ` debugfs: " Al Viro
2019-03-26 10:41 ` ceph: " Jeff Layton
2019-03-26 11:38 ` Ilya Dryomov
2019-03-26 1:45 ` KASAN: use-after-free Read in path_lookupat Al Viro
2019-04-10 18:11 ` Al Viro
2019-04-10 19:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-25 19:43 ` Al Viro
2019-03-25 22:48 ` Dave Chinner
2019-03-25 23:02 ` Al Viro
[not found] ` <CAGe7X7mb=gK7zhSwmT_6mmmkcbjhZAOb=wj31BdUcHkNUPsm2Q@mail.gmail.com>
2019-03-26 4:15 ` Al Viro
2019-03-27 16:58 ` Jan Kara
2019-03-27 18:59 ` Al Viro
2019-03-28 9:00 ` Jan Kara
2019-03-27 17:22 ` Jan Kara
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