From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A307DC43219 for ; Thu, 2 May 2019 13:26:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77DFE2075E for ; Thu, 2 May 2019 13:26:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726353AbfEBN0c (ORCPT ); Thu, 2 May 2019 09:26:32 -0400 Received: from zeniv.linux.org.uk ([195.92.253.2]:50374 "EHLO ZenIV.linux.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726285AbfEBN0b (ORCPT ); Thu, 2 May 2019 09:26:31 -0400 Received: from viro by ZenIV.linux.org.uk with local (Exim 4.92 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1hMBjE-0006B8-00; Thu, 02 May 2019 13:26:24 +0000 Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 14:26:23 +0100 From: Al Viro To: Theodore Ts'o Cc: Amir Goldstein , ezemtsov@google.com, linux-fsdevel , Miklos Szeredi Subject: Re: Initial patches for Incremental FS Message-ID: <20190502132623.GU23075@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> References: <20190502040331.81196-1-ezemtsov@google.com> <20190502131034.GA25007@mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190502131034.GA25007@mit.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.3 (2019-02-01) Sender: linux-fsdevel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, May 02, 2019 at 09:10:34AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > +Why isn't incremental-fs implemented via FUSE? > +---------------------------------------------- > +TLDR: FUSE-based filesystems add 20-80% of performance overhead for target > +scenarios, and increase power use on mobile beyond acceptable limit > +for widespread deployment. A custom kernel filesystem is the way to overcome > +these limitations. > + > > There are several paragraphs of more detail which I leave for the > interested reader to review.... Why not CODA, though, with local fs as cache?