From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E990CC004C9 for ; Thu, 9 May 2019 03:21:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF191216C4 for ; Thu, 9 May 2019 03:21:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726680AbfEIDVp (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 May 2019 23:21:45 -0400 Received: from outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu ([18.9.28.11]:60933 "EHLO outgoing.mit.edu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726109AbfEIDVo (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 May 2019 23:21:44 -0400 Received: from callcc.thunk.org ([66.31.38.53]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id x493KHVw012310 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 8 May 2019 23:20:19 -0400 Received: by callcc.thunk.org (Postfix, from userid 15806) id A3951420024; Wed, 8 May 2019 23:20:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 23:20:17 -0400 From: "Theodore Ts'o" To: Frank Rowand Cc: Greg KH , Brendan Higgins , keescook@google.com, kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com, mcgrof@kernel.org, robh@kernel.org, sboyd@kernel.org, shuah@kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, kunit-dev@googlegroups.com, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org, linux-um@lists.infradead.org, Alexander.Levin@microsoft.com, Tim.Bird@sony.com, amir73il@gmail.com, dan.carpenter@oracle.com, dan.j.williams@intel.com, daniel@ffwll.ch, jdike@addtoit.com, joel@jms.id.au, julia.lawall@lip6.fr, khilman@baylibre.com, knut.omang@oracle.com, logang@deltatee.com, mpe@ellerman.id.au, pmladek@suse.com, richard@nod.at, rientjes@google.com, rostedt@goodmis.org, wfg@linux.intel.com Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/17] kunit: introduce KUnit, the Linux kernel unit testing framework Message-ID: <20190509032017.GA29703@mit.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Theodore Ts'o , Frank Rowand , Greg KH , Brendan Higgins , keescook@google.com, kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com, mcgrof@kernel.org, robh@kernel.org, sboyd@kernel.org, shuah@kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, kunit-dev@googlegroups.com, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org, linux-um@lists.infradead.org, Alexander.Levin@microsoft.com, Tim.Bird@sony.com, amir73il@gmail.com, dan.carpenter@oracle.com, dan.j.williams@intel.com, daniel@ffwll.ch, jdike@addtoit.com, joel@jms.id.au, julia.lawall@lip6.fr, khilman@baylibre.com, knut.omang@oracle.com, logang@deltatee.com, mpe@ellerman.id.au, pmladek@suse.com, richard@nod.at, rientjes@google.com, rostedt@goodmis.org, wfg@linux.intel.com References: <20190501230126.229218-1-brendanhiggins@google.com> <54940124-50df-16ec-1a32-ad794ee05da7@gmail.com> <20190507080119.GB28121@kroah.com> <20190509015856.GB7031@mit.edu> <580e092f-fa4e-eedc-9e9a-a57dd085f0a6@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <580e092f-fa4e-eedc-9e9a-a57dd085f0a6@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-fsdevel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 07:13:59PM -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: > > If you want to use vice grips as a hammer, screwdriver, monkey wrench, > > etc. there's nothing stopping you from doing that. But it's not fair > > to object to other people who might want to use better tools. > > > > The reality is that we have a lot of testing tools. It's not just > > kselftests. There is xfstests for file system code, blktests for > > block layer tests, etc. We use the right tool for the right job. > > More specious arguments. Well, *I* don't think they are specious; so I think we're going to have to agree to disagree. Cheers, - Ted