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From: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
	Olga Kornievskaia <olga.kornievskaia@gmail.com>,
	Luis Henriques <lhenriques@suse.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vfs: allow copy_file_range from a swapfile
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 20:29:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190611032926.GA1872778@magnolia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190611025108.GB2774@mit.edu>

On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 10:51:08PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 06:16:12PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 08:26:06PM +0300, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> > > read(2) is allowed from a swapfile, so copy_file_range(2) should
> > > be allowed as well.
> > > 
> > > Reported-by: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
> > > Fixes: 96e6e8f4a68d ("vfs: add missing checks to copy_file_range")
> > > Signed-off-by: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
> > > ---
> > > 
> > > Darrick,
> > > 
> > > This fixes the generic/554 issue reported by Ted.
> > 
> > Frankly I think we should go the other way -- non-root doesn't get to
> > copy from or read from swap files.
> 
> The issue is that without this patch, *root* doesn't get to copy from
> swap files.  Non-root shouldn't have access via Unix permissions.  We

I'm not sure even root should have that privilege - it's a swap file,
and until you swapoff, it's owned by the kernel and we shouldn't let
backup programs copy your swapped out credit card numbers onto tape.

> could add a special case if we don't trust system administrators to be
> able to set the Unix permissions correctly, I suppose, but we don't do
> that for block devices when they are mounted....

...and administrators often mkfs over mounted filesystems because we let
them read and write block devices.  Granted I tried to fix that once and
LVM totally stopped working...

--D

> 
> 					- Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-11  3:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-10 17:26 [PATCH] vfs: allow copy_file_range from a swapfile Amir Goldstein
2019-06-11  1:16 ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-06-11  2:51   ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-11  3:29     ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2019-06-11  5:08       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11  5:44       ` Amir Goldstein

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