From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F894C004EF for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 11:21:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139A321537 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 11:21:51 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key) header.d=infradead.org header.i=@infradead.org header.b="PMXEfxna" Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726411AbfGILVu (ORCPT ); Tue, 9 Jul 2019 07:21:50 -0400 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([198.137.202.133]:49838 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726165AbfGILVu (ORCPT ); Tue, 9 Jul 2019 07:21:50 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=bombadil.20170209; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version :References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=jD6kJP1W3EItQJ+7NNHoZaZ3Nsj5zGBFCoAMXOtbtkc=; b=PMXEfxna18N7zoPtVghvBrl82 6CkURbmbsnlWPeKpUv8cQ0w5J7tX+k7iuusTSIBL3JVnKeIQCAnaVa+XdZClEXxIB8bdThXlz179v lntKfy3styjyfDlHqBP7ulfChcswyUC9neH2NAmWDhMQDMD1x55IORK+C2Hr79YpdWu/4dpJt9Gwm kRrEtsQHjzUijSV8oGHJIuQzuG5JOC1DUnQHHxIAxUrqnnDWcgWaYSh00zS+KwMdkoulU0Zs3HEVN JwjrAucNjUS2tvA1l7kClQV+NSnVKEcWBOe5tIjrphQLqs+RCKC5aUL5C73Vly1RoapBtXGB/v6kL nwgIcXK2A==; Received: from willy by bombadil.infradead.org with local (Exim 4.92 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1hkoBk-000168-UK; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 11:21:36 +0000 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 04:21:36 -0700 From: Matthew Wilcox To: Theodore Ts'o , Valdis =?utf-8?Q?Kl=C4=93tnieks?= , Alexander Viro , Greg Kroah-Hartman , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devel@driverdev.osuosl.org Subject: Re: Procedure questions - new filesystem driver.. Message-ID: <20190709112136.GI32320@bombadil.infradead.org> References: <21080.1562632662@turing-police> <20190709045020.GB23646@mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190709045020.GB23646@mit.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.4 (2019-03-13) Sender: linux-fsdevel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 12:50:20AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > How have you dealt with the patent claims which Microsoft has > asserted[1] on the exFAT file system design? > > [1] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/mtl/exfat-licensing.aspx > > I am not making any claims about the validity of Microsoft's patent > assertions on exFAT, one way or another. But it might be a good idea > for some laywers from the Linux Foundation to render some legal advice > to their employees (namely Greg K-H and Linus Torvalds) regarding the > advisability of taking exFAT into the official Linux tree. > > Personally, if Microsoft is going to be unfriendly about not wanting > others to use their file system technology by making patent claims, > why should we reward them by making their file system better by > improvings its interoperability? (My personal opinion only.) How does https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-open-sources-its-entire-patent-portfolio/ change your personal opinion?