From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446B2C73C46 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 15:48:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC65216C4 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 15:48:53 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key) header.d=infradead.org header.i=@infradead.org header.b="X0dXNaHO" Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726491AbfGIPst (ORCPT ); Tue, 9 Jul 2019 11:48:49 -0400 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([198.137.202.133]:44886 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726060AbfGIPst (ORCPT ); Tue, 9 Jul 2019 11:48:49 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=bombadil.20170209; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version :References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=+SqRiX7dUQs2pjbdLNxkSvo5c+sYbuHqLzt+2iHVymw=; b=X0dXNaHO5xVa5gXR+XNOgRO+/ mm0iPB3e+bjQdJuAUv0hWybDRpjMBrpAwKK492/V4sMCeOu4fMQruNKRn65uSQS+jkmZJsQu//4kd i3tDBLfEPUeCQQHvkQENkF+IXjj8CvQjw2clBSB0MXYYg6KRRUIn2T6A2mn/kuu2tMio02tQ6VvS4 phihrF88G+0fgyUm6xhaiUhxYF09uPTymaEfVu1RmRhKOZo9Uus32yWg90QzDLWvfO6z7i82NTzOq 9oBQR4dcQF5B5mb4sIWpmHkbmGFFSY+0kEYD3S+d0QmsSDmV9+MYdBUe9ZV4hszI2toHglLy8LcwN OqZt+NyEw==; Received: from willy by bombadil.infradead.org with local (Exim 4.92 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1hksM6-00031j-Ut; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 15:48:34 +0000 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 08:48:34 -0700 From: Matthew Wilcox To: Theodore Ts'o , Valdis =?utf-8?Q?Kl=C4=93tnieks?= , Alexander Viro , Greg Kroah-Hartman , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devel@driverdev.osuosl.org, kys@microsoft.com Cc: Sasha Levin Subject: exfat filesystem Message-ID: <20190709154834.GJ32320@bombadil.infradead.org> References: <21080.1562632662@turing-police> <20190709045020.GB23646@mit.edu> <20190709112136.GI32320@bombadil.infradead.org> <20190709153039.GA3200@mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190709153039.GA3200@mit.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.4 (2019-03-13) Sender: linux-fsdevel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 11:30:39AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 04:21:36AM -0700, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > How does > > https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-open-sources-its-entire-patent-portfolio/ > > change your personal opinion? > > According to SFC's legal analysis, Microsoft joining the OIN doesn't > mean that the eXFAT patents are covered, unless *Microsoft* > contributes the code to the Linux usptream kernel. That's because the > OIN is governed by the Linux System Definition, and until MS > contributes code which covered by the exFAT patents, it doesn't count. > > For more details: > > https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2018/oct/10/microsoft-oin-exfat/ > > (This is not legal advice, and I am not a lawyer.) Interesting analysis. It seems to me that the correct forms would be observed if someone suitably senior at Microsoft accepted the work from Valdis and submitted it with their sign-off. KY, how about it?