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From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: Topi Miettinen <toiwoton@gmail.com>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:FILESYSTEMS (VFS and infrastructure)" 
	<linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Allow restricting permissions in /proc/sys
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 15:19:00 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201911121517.DC317D5D@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1b0f94ef-ab1c-cb79-dd52-954cf0438af1@gmail.com>

On Tue, Nov 05, 2019 at 09:35:46AM +0200, Topi Miettinen wrote:
> On 5.11.2019 1.41, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > My sense is that if there is any kind of compelling reason to make
> > world-readable values not world-readable, and it doesn't break anything
> > (except malicious applications) than a kernel patch is probably the way
> > to go.
> 
> With kernel patch, do you propose to change individual sysctls to not
> world-readable? That surely would help everybody instead of just those who
> care enough to change /proc/sys permissions. I guess it would also be more
> effort by an order of magnitude or two to convince each owner of a sysctl to
> accept the change.

I would think of this as a two-stage process: provide a mechanism to
tighten permissions arbitrarily so that it is easier to gather evidence
about which could have their default changed in the future.

> These code paths have not changed much or at all since the initial version
> in 2007, so I suppose the maintenance burden has not been overwhelming.
> 
> By the way, /proc/sys still allows changing the {a,c,m}time. I think those
> are not backed anywhere, so they probably suffer from same caching problems
> as my first version of the patch.

Is a v2 of this patch needed? It wasn't clear to me if the inode modes
were incorrectly cached...?

-- 
Kees Cook

  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-12 23:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-03 14:55 [PATCH] Allow restricting permissions in /proc/sys Topi Miettinen
2019-11-03 17:56 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-11-03 19:24   ` Topi Miettinen
2019-11-12 23:15   ` Kees Cook
2019-11-03 18:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-11-03 19:38   ` Topi Miettinen
2019-11-04 15:44     ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-11-04 17:58       ` Topi Miettinen
2019-11-04 23:41         ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-11-05  7:35           ` Topi Miettinen
2019-11-12 23:19             ` Kees Cook [this message]
2019-11-13  1:04               ` Luis Chamberlain
2019-11-12 23:22 ` Christian Brauner
2019-11-13  4:50   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-11-13 10:52     ` Topi Miettinen
2019-11-13 16:00   ` Jann Horn
2019-11-13 16:19     ` Topi Miettinen
2019-11-13 16:40       ` Jann Horn

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