From: "Pali Rohár" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>
To: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>,
Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>,
David Sterba <dsterba@suse.com>,
"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: FS_IOC_GETFSLABEL and FS_IOC_SETFSLABEL
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 19:39:20 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200101183920.imncit5sllj46c22@pali> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200101181054.GB191637@mit.edu>
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On Wednesday 01 January 2020 13:10:54 Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 04:54:18PM -0600, Eric Sandeen wrote:
> > > Because I was not able to find any documentation for it, what is format
> > > of passed buffer... null-term string? fixed-length? and in which
> > > encoding? utf-8? latin1? utf-16? or filesystem dependent?
> >
> > It simply copies the bits from the memory location you pass in, it knows
> > nothing of encodings.
> >
> > For the most part it's up to the filesystem's own utilities to do any
> > interpretation of the resulting bits on disk, null-terminating maximal-length
> > label strings, etc.
>
> I'm not sure this is going to be the best API design choice. The
> blkid library interprets the on disk format for each file syustem
> knowing what is the "native" format for that particular file system.
> This is mainly an issue only for the non-Linux file systems; for the
> Linux file system, the party line has historically been that we don't
> get involved with character encoding, but in practice, what that has
> evolved into is that userspace has standardized on UTF-8, and that's
> what we pass into the kernel from userspace by convention.
>
> But the problem is that if the goal is to make FS_IOC_GETFSLABEL and
> FS_IOC_SETFSLABEL work without the calling program knowing what file
> system type a particular pathname happens to be, then it would be
> easist for the userspace program if it can expect that it can always
> pass in a null-terminated UTF-8 string, and get back a null-terminated
> UTF-8. I bet that in practice, that is what most userspace programs
> are going to be do anyway, since it works that way for all other file
> system syscalls.
>
> So for a file system which is a non-Linux-native file system, if it
> happens to store the its label using utf-16, or some other
> Windows-system-silliness, it would work a lot better if it assumed
> that it was passed in utf-8, and stored in the the Windows file system
> using whatever crazy encoding Windows wants to use. Otherwise, why
> bother uplifting the ioctl to one which is file system independent, if
> the paramters are defined to be file system *dependent*?
Exactly. In another email I wrote that for those non-Linux-native
filesystem could be used encoding specified in iocharset= mount
parameter. I think it is better as usage of one fixing encoding (e.g.
UTF-8) if other filesystem strings are propagated to userspace in other
encoding (as specified by iocharset=).
--
Pali Rohár
pali.rohar@gmail.com
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-01-01 18:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-12-28 14:36 FS_IOC_GETFSLABEL and FS_IOC_SETFSLABEL Pali Rohár
2019-12-28 19:14 ` Andreas Dilger
2019-12-28 20:05 ` Pali Rohár
2019-12-31 22:54 ` Eric Sandeen
2020-01-01 18:10 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-01-01 18:39 ` Pali Rohár [this message]
2020-01-02 21:57 ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-01-02 22:08 ` Pali Rohár
2020-01-07 23:15 ` Darrick J. Wong
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