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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Iurii Zaikin <yzaikin@google.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/11] fs: add new read_uptr and write_uptr file operations
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 19:55:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200624175548.GA25939@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wit9enePELG=-HnLsr0nY5bucFNjqAqWoFTuYDGR1P4KA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 10:19:16AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Honestly, I think this is the wrong way to go.
> 
> All of this new complexity and messiness, just to remove a few
> unimportant final cases?
> 
> If somebody can't be bothered to convert a driver to
> iter_read/iter_write, why would they be bothered to convert it to
> read_uptr/write_uptr?
> 
> And this messiness will stay around for decades.
> 
> So let's not go down that path.
> 
> If you want to do "splice() and kernel_read() requires read_iter"
> (with a warning so that we find any cases), then that's fine. But
> let's not add yet _another_ read type.
> 
> Why did you care so much about sysctl, and why couldn't they use the iter ops?

I don't care at all.  Based on our previous chat I assumed you
wanted something like this.  We might still need the uptr_t for
setsockopt, though.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-24 17:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-24 16:28 [RFC] stop using ->read and ->write for kernel access Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-24 16:28 ` [PATCH 01/11] uptr: add a new "universal pointer" type Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-24 16:28 ` [PATCH 02/11] fs: factor out a set_fmode_can_read_write helper Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-24 16:28 ` [PATCH 03/11] fs: add new read_uptr and write_uptr file operations Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-24 17:19   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-24 17:55     ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2020-06-24 18:11       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-24 18:14         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-24 18:20           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-24 18:24             ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-24 18:29               ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-06-24 18:31                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-24 18:15         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-27 10:49         ` David Laight
2020-06-27 16:33           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-29  8:21             ` David Laight
2020-06-29 15:29             ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-29 17:02               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-29 18:07                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-29 18:29                   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-29 18:36                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-29 19:10                       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-30  7:04                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-30  7:51                 ` David Laight
2020-07-08  5:14             ` Luis Chamberlain
2020-06-24 17:56     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-06-24 17:59       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-24 18:37         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-24 18:43           ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-06-24 16:28 ` [PATCH 04/11] sysctl: switch to ->{read,write}_uptr Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-24 16:28 ` [PATCH 05/11] fs: refactor new_sync_read Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-24 16:28 ` [PATCH 06/11] proc: add a read_iter method to proc proc_ops Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-24 16:28 ` [PATCH 07/11] seq_file: add seq_read_iter Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-24 16:28 ` [PATCH 09/11] proc: switch over direct seq_read method calls to seq_read_iter Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-24 16:29 ` [PATCH 10/11] fs: don't allow kernel reads and writes using ->read and ->write Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-24 16:29 ` [PATCH 11/11] fs: don't allow splice read/write without explicit ops Christoph Hellwig

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