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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Iurii Zaikin <yzaikin@google.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/11] fs: add new read_uptr and write_uptr file operations
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 20:31:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200624183154.GA26685@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200624182944.GT21350@casper.infradead.org>

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 07:29:44PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 08:24:37PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 11:20:26AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 11:14 AM Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > So we'd need new user copy functions for just those cases
> > > 
> > > No. We'd open-code them. They'd look at "oh, I'm supposed to use a
> > > kernel pointer" and just use those.
> > > 
> > > IOW, basically IN THE CODE that cares (and the whole argument is that
> > > this code is one or two special cases) you do
> > > 
> > >     /* This has not been converted to the new world order */
> > >     if (get_fs() == KERNEL_DS) memcpy(..) else copy_from_user();
> > > 
> > > You're overdesigning things. You're making them more complex than they
> > > need to be.
> > 
> > I wish it was so simple.  I really don't like overdesigns, trust me.
> > 
> > But please take a look at setsockopt and all the different instances
> > (count 90 .setsockopt wireups, and they then branch out into
> > various subroutines as well).  I really don't want to open code that
> > there, but we could do helper specific to setsockopt.
> 
> Can we do a setsockopt_iter() which replaces optval/optlen with an iov_iter?

We could.  The only downside is int-sized sockopts are common, and used
in the fast path of networking applications (e.g. cork,uncork) and this
might introduce enough overhead to be noticable.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-24 18:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-24 16:28 [RFC] stop using ->read and ->write for kernel access Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-24 16:28 ` [PATCH 01/11] uptr: add a new "universal pointer" type Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-24 16:28 ` [PATCH 02/11] fs: factor out a set_fmode_can_read_write helper Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-24 16:28 ` [PATCH 03/11] fs: add new read_uptr and write_uptr file operations Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-24 17:19   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-24 17:55     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-24 18:11       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-24 18:14         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-24 18:20           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-24 18:24             ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-24 18:29               ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-06-24 18:31                 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2020-06-24 18:15         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-27 10:49         ` David Laight
2020-06-27 16:33           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-29  8:21             ` David Laight
2020-06-29 15:29             ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-29 17:02               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-29 18:07                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-29 18:29                   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-29 18:36                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-29 19:10                       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-30  7:04                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-30  7:51                 ` David Laight
2020-07-08  5:14             ` Luis Chamberlain
2020-06-24 17:56     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-06-24 17:59       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-24 18:37         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-24 18:43           ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-06-24 16:28 ` [PATCH 04/11] sysctl: switch to ->{read,write}_uptr Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-24 16:28 ` [PATCH 05/11] fs: refactor new_sync_read Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-24 16:28 ` [PATCH 06/11] proc: add a read_iter method to proc proc_ops Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-24 16:28 ` [PATCH 07/11] seq_file: add seq_read_iter Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-24 16:28 ` [PATCH 09/11] proc: switch over direct seq_read method calls to seq_read_iter Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-24 16:29 ` [PATCH 10/11] fs: don't allow kernel reads and writes using ->read and ->write Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-24 16:29 ` [PATCH 11/11] fs: don't allow splice read/write without explicit ops Christoph Hellwig

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