From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Cc: Michael Larabel <Michael@michaellarabel.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Ted Ts'o <tytso@google.com>,
Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
Ext4 Developers List <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Kernel Benchmarking
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 16:53:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200912155330.GC6583@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOQ4uxhz8prfD5K7dU68yHdz=iBndCXTg5w4BrF-35B+4ziOwA@mail.gmail.com>
On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 10:28:29AM +0300, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 1:40 AM Michael Larabel
> <Michael@michaellarabel.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 9/11/20 5:07 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 9:19 AM Linus Torvalds
> > > <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > >> Ok, it's probably simply that fairness is really bad for performance
> > >> here in general, and that special case is just that - a special case,
> > >> not the main issue.
> > > Ahh. It turns out that I should have looked more at the fault path
> > > after all. It was higher up in the profile, but I ignored it because I
> > > found that lock-unlock-lock pattern lower down.
> > >
> > > The main contention point is actually filemap_fault(). Your apache
> > > test accesses the 'test.html' file that is mmap'ed into memory, and
> > > all the threads hammer on that one single file concurrently and that
> > > seems to be the main page lock contention.
> > >
> > > Which is really sad - the page lock there isn't really all that
> > > interesting, and the normal "read()" path doesn't even take it. But
> > > faulting the page in does so because the page will have a long-term
> > > existence in the page tables, and so there's a worry about racing with
> > > truncate.
Here's an idea (sorry, no patch, about to go out for the day)
What if we cleared PageUptodate in the truncate path? And then
filemap_fault() looks a lot more like generic_file_buffered_read() where
we check PageUptodate, and only if it's clear do we take the page lock
and call ->readpage.
We'd need to recheck PageUptodate after installing the PTE and zap
it ourselves, and we wouldn't be able to check page_mapped() in the
truncate path any more, which would make me sad. But there's something
to be said for making faults cheaper.
Even the XFS model where we take the MMAPLOCK_SHARED isn't free -- it's
just write-vs-write on a cacheline instead of a visible contention on
the page lock.
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2020-09-12 7:28 ` Kernel Benchmarking Amir Goldstein
2020-09-12 10:32 ` Michael Larabel
2020-09-12 14:37 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-12 14:44 ` Michael Larabel
2020-09-15 3:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-15 10:39 ` Jan Kara
2020-09-15 13:52 ` Matthew Wilcox
[not found] ` <658ae026-32d9-0a25-5a59-9c510d6898d5@MichaelLarabel.com>
2020-09-14 17:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-14 20:21 ` Matthieu Baerts
2020-09-14 20:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-15 0:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-15 15:34 ` Matthieu Baerts
2020-09-15 18:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-15 18:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-15 19:26 ` Matthieu Baerts
2020-09-15 19:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-15 19:56 ` Matthieu Baerts
2020-09-15 23:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-16 10:34 ` Jan Kara
2020-09-16 18:47 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <9a92bf16-02c5-ba38-33c7-f350588ac874@tessares.net>
2020-09-15 19:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-15 19:38 ` Matthieu Baerts
2020-09-15 18:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-15 14:21 ` Michael Larabel
2020-09-15 17:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-17 17:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-17 18:23 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-17 18:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-17 18:50 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-17 19:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-17 19:27 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-17 19:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-18 0:39 ` Sedat Dilek
2020-09-18 0:40 ` Sedat Dilek
2020-09-18 20:25 ` Sedat Dilek
2020-09-20 17:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-20 17:14 ` Sedat Dilek
2020-09-20 17:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-20 18:00 ` Sedat Dilek
2020-09-20 23:23 ` Dave Chinner
2020-09-20 23:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-20 23:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-21 1:20 ` Dave Chinner
2020-09-12 15:53 ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2020-09-12 17:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-12 20:32 ` Rogério Brito
2020-09-14 9:33 ` Jan Kara
2020-09-12 20:58 ` Josh Triplett
2020-09-12 20:59 ` James Bottomley
2020-09-12 21:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-12 22:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-13 0:40 ` Dave Chinner
2020-09-13 2:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-13 3:40 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-13 23:45 ` Dave Chinner
2020-09-14 3:31 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-15 14:28 ` Chris Mason
2020-09-15 9:27 ` Jan Kara
2020-09-13 3:18 ` Matthew Wilcox
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