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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>, Qian Cai <cai@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] iomap: Set all uptodate bits for an Uptodate page
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 16:22:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200924152211.GX32101@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200924151259.GB2603692@bfoster>

On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 11:12:59AM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 02:59:00PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 09:12:35AM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 01:56:08PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox (Oracle) wrote:
> > > > For filesystems with block size < page size, we need to set all the
> > > > per-block uptodate bits if the page was already uptodate at the time
> > > > we create the per-block metadata.  This can happen if the page is
> > > > invalidated (eg by a write to drop_caches) but ultimately not removed
> > > > from the page cache.
> > > > 
> > > > This is a data corruption issue as page writeback skips blocks which
> > > > are marked !uptodate.
> > > 
> > > Thanks. Based on my testing of clearing PageUptodate here I suspect this
> > > will similarly prevent the problem, but I'll give this a test
> > > nonetheless. 
> > > 
> > > I am a little curious why we'd prefer to fill the iop here rather than
> > > just clear the page state if the iop data has been released. If the page
> > > is partially uptodate, then we end up having to re-read the page
> > > anyways, right? OTOH, I guess this behavior is more consistent with page
> > > size == block size filesystems where iop wouldn't exist and we just go
> > > by page state, so perhaps that makes more sense.
> > 
> > Well, it's _true_ ... the PageUptodate bit means that every byte in this
> > page is at least as new as every byte on storage.  There's no need to
> > re-read it, which is what we'll do if we ClearPageUptodate.
> 
> Yes, of course. I'm just noting the inconsistent behavior between a full
> and partially uptodate page.

Heh, well, we have no way of knowing.  We literally just threw away
the information about which blocks are uptodate.  So the best we can
do is work with the single bit we have.  We do know that there are no
dirty blocks left on the page at this point (... maybe we should add a
VM_BUG_ON(!PageUptodate && PageDirty)).

Something we could do is summarise the block uptodate information in
the 32/64 bits of page_private without setting PagePrivate.  That would
cause us to still allocate an iop so we can track reads/writes, but we
might be able to avoid a few reads.

But I don't think it's worth it.  Partially uptodate pages are not what
we should be optimising for; we should try to get & keep pages uptodate.
After all, it's a page cache ;-)

  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-24 15:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-24 12:56 [PATCH] iomap: Set all uptodate bits for an Uptodate page Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2020-09-24 13:12 ` Brian Foster
2020-09-24 13:59   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-24 14:47     ` Gao Xiang
2020-09-24 15:12     ` Brian Foster
2020-09-24 15:22       ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2020-09-24 17:26         ` Brian Foster
2020-09-24 17:56           ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-24 15:08 ` Sedat Dilek
2020-09-24 15:15   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-24 15:21     ` Sedat Dilek
2020-09-24 15:27       ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-24 16:19         ` Sedat Dilek
2020-09-24 16:36           ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-24 18:27             ` Sedat Dilek
2020-09-24 18:44               ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-24 18:47               ` Qian Cai
2020-09-24 19:54                 ` Sedat Dilek
2020-09-24 20:02                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-24 20:04                     ` Sedat Dilek
2020-09-24 23:57                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-25  2:13                         ` Sedat Dilek
2020-09-25 10:44                         ` Sedat Dilek
2020-09-25 11:12                           ` Sedat Dilek
2020-09-25 13:24                         ` Sedat Dilek
2020-09-25 13:36                           ` Sedat Dilek
2020-09-25 13:46                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-25 14:01                               ` Sedat Dilek
2020-09-25 15:53                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-26 19:12                                   ` Sedat Dilek
2020-09-27 11:31                                   ` Sedat Dilek
2020-09-27 12:04                                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-27 12:34                                       ` Sedat Dilek
2020-09-27 12:45                                         ` Sedat Dilek
2020-09-27 13:48                                       ` Sedat Dilek
2020-09-27 13:54                                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-27 14:02                                           ` Sedat Dilek
2020-09-27 15:19                                             ` Sedat Dilek
2020-10-03 18:52                         ` Sedat Dilek
2020-10-04  4:13                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-10-04 10:35                             ` Sedat Dilek
2020-09-25 18:17 ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-09-28  6:41 ` Christoph Hellwig

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