From: Sergei Shtepa <sergei.shtepa@veeam.com>
To: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] block layer filter and block device snapshot module
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 12:44:02 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201022094402.GA21466@veeam.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ca8eaa40-b422-2272-1fd9-1d0a354c42bf@suse.de>
The 10/22/2020 08:58, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> On 10/21/20 4:10 PM, Sergei Shtepa wrote:
> > The 10/21/2020 16:31, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> >> I do understand where you are coming from, but then we already have a
> >> dm-snap which does exactly what you want to achieve.
> >> Of course, that would require a reconfiguration of the storage stack on
> >> the machine, which is not always possible (or desired).
> >
> > Yes, reconfiguring the storage stack on a machine is almost impossible.
> >
> >>
> >> What I _could_ imagine would be a 'dm-intercept' thingie, which
> >> redirects the current submit_bio() function for any block device, and
> >> re-routes that to a linear device-mapper device pointing back to the
> >> original block device.
> >>
> >> That way you could attach it to basically any block device, _and_ can
> >> use the existing device-mapper functionality to do fancy stuff once the
> >> submit_io() callback has been re-routed.
> >>
> >> And it also would help in other scenarios, too; with such a
> >> functionality we could seamlessly clone devices without having to move
> >> the whole setup to device-mapper first.
> >
> > Hm...
> > Did I understand correctly that the filter itself can be left approximately
> > as it is, but the blk-snap module can be replaced with 'dm-intercept',
> > which would use the re-route mechanism from the dm?
> > I think I may be able to implement it, if you describe your idea in more
> > detail.
> >
> >
> Actually, once we have an dm-intercept, why do you need the block-layer
> filter at all?
> From you initial description the block-layer filter was implemented
> such that blk-snap could work; but if we have dm-intercept (and with it
> the ability to use device-mapper functionality even for normal block
> devices) there wouldn't be any need for the block-layer filter, no?
Maybe, but the problem is that I can't imagine how to implement
dm-intercept yet.
How to use dm to implement interception without changing the stack
of block devices. We'll have to make a hook somewhere, isn`t it?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hannes
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-10-22 9:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-10-21 9:04 [PATCH 0/2] block layer filter and block device snapshot module Sergei Shtepa
2020-10-21 9:04 ` [PATCH 1/2] Block layer filter - second version Sergei Shtepa
2020-10-21 9:14 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2020-10-21 10:01 ` Sergei Shtepa
2020-10-21 9:21 ` Damien Le Moal
2020-10-21 10:27 ` Sergei Shtepa
2020-10-21 11:44 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-10-21 12:55 ` Sergei Shtepa
2020-10-21 13:07 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-10-21 14:35 ` Sergei Shtepa
2020-10-21 15:09 ` Randy Dunlap
2020-10-24 14:53 ` Greg KH
2020-10-21 9:04 ` [PATCH 2/2] blk-snap - snapshots and change-tracking for block devices Sergei Shtepa
2020-10-21 9:08 ` Pavel Machek
2020-10-21 9:37 ` Sergei Shtepa
2020-10-21 9:23 ` Damien Le Moal
2020-10-21 11:15 ` Sergei Shtepa
2020-10-21 10:48 ` kernel test robot
2020-10-21 15:11 ` Randy Dunlap
2020-10-21 13:31 ` [PATCH 0/2] block layer filter and block device snapshot module Hannes Reinecke
2020-10-21 14:10 ` Sergei Shtepa
2020-10-22 5:58 ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-10-22 9:44 ` Sergei Shtepa [this message]
2020-10-22 10:28 ` Damien Le Moal
2020-10-22 13:52 ` Sergei Shtepa
2020-10-22 15:14 ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-10-22 17:54 ` Mike Snitzer
2020-10-23 9:13 ` hch
2020-10-23 10:31 ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-10-23 11:04 ` Sergei Shtepa
2020-10-23 11:12 ` [dm-devel] " hch
2020-10-22 18:35 ` Mike Snitzer
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