From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 406F5C433F5 for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2022 22:18:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229894AbiCDWTR (ORCPT ); Fri, 4 Mar 2022 17:19:17 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:36516 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229468AbiCDWTQ (ORCPT ); Fri, 4 Mar 2022 17:19:16 -0500 Received: from mail105.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail105.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.249]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9C31BEB7; Fri, 4 Mar 2022 14:18:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from dread.disaster.area (pa49-186-17-0.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au [49.186.17.0]) by mail105.syd.optusnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B2FC10E1C43; Sat, 5 Mar 2022 09:18:26 +1100 (AEDT) Received: from dave by dread.disaster.area with local (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1nQGFl-001Zzq-Nx; Sat, 05 Mar 2022 09:18:25 +1100 Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2022 09:18:25 +1100 From: Dave Chinner To: Jaegeuk Kim Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] vfs: do not try to evict inode when super is frozen Message-ID: <20220304221825.GM3927073@dread.disaster.area> References: <20220304022104.2525009-1-jaegeuk@kernel.org> <20220304024843.GK3927073@dread.disaster.area> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Optus-CM-Score: 0 X-Optus-CM-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=deDjYVbe c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=62229032 a=+dVDrTVfsjPpH/ci3UuFng==:117 a=+dVDrTVfsjPpH/ci3UuFng==:17 a=FCBBoiUPZGnDA3Uh:21 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=o8Y5sQTvuykA:10 a=7-415B0cAAAA:8 a=kobbvlOx0iqVO4J9MBYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=ZXjPKerQ9QDAtgzuyCT9:22 a=biEYGPWJfzWAr4FL6Ov7:22 Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Mar 03, 2022 at 09:14:50PM -0800, Jaegeuk Kim wrote: > On 03/04, Dave Chinner wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 03, 2022 at 06:21:04PM -0800, Jaegeuk Kim wrote: > > > Otherwise, we will get a deadlock. > > > > NACK. > > > > We have to be able to evict clean inodes from memory on frozen > > inodes because we can still instantiate inodes while the filesytem > > is frozen. e.g. there's a find running when the filesystem is > > frozen. What happens if we can't evict clean cached inodes from > > memory when we run out of memory trying to instantiate new inodes? > > Ok, that makes sense. > > > > > > > > > [freeze test] shrinkder > > > freeze_super > > > - pwercpu_down_write(SB_FREEZE_FS) > > > - super_cache_scan > > > - down_read(&sb->s_umount) > > > - prune_icache_sb > > > - dispose_list > > > - evict > > > - f2fs_evict_inode > > > thaw_super > > > - down_write(&sb->s_umount); > > > - __percpu_down_read(SB_FREEZE_FS) > > > > That seems like a f2fs bug, not a generic problem. > > > > Filesystems already have to handle stuff like this if an unlinked > > file is closed while the fs is frozen - we have to handle inode > > eviction needing to modify the file, and different filesystems > > handle this differently. Most filesystems simply block in > > ->evict_inode in this case, but this never occurs from the shrinker > > context. > > > > IOWs, the shrinker should never be evicting inodes that require the > > filesystem to immediately block on frozen filesystems. If you have > > such inodes in cache at the time the filesystem is frozen, then they > > should be purged from the cache as part of the freeze process so the > > shrinker won't ever find inodes that it could deadlock on. > > If so, is this a bug in drop_caches_sysctl_handler? IMO, no. > Or, I shouldn't have > used "echo 3 > sysfs/drop_caches" with freezefs in xfstests? That should just work. As I said above - if the filesystem cannot process eviction of certain types of inodes when the filesystem is frozen, it needs to take steps during the freeze process to ensure they can't be evicted when the fs is frozen.... Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Chinner david@fromorbit.com