From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
reiserfs-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Is it time to remove reiserfs?
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2022 12:54:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220402105454.GA16346@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220222100408.cyrdjsv5eun5pzij@quack3.lan>
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Hi!
> > Keeping reiserfs in the tree has certain costs. For example, I would
> > very much like to remove the 'flags' argument to ->write_begin. We have
> > the infrastructure in place to handle AOP_FLAG_NOFS differently, but
> > AOP_FLAG_CONT_EXPAND is still around, used only by reiserfs.
> >
> > Looking over the patches to reiserfs over the past couple of years, there
> > are fixes for a few syzbot reports and treewide changes. There don't
> > seem to be any fixes for user-spotted bugs since 2019. Does reiserfs
> > still have a large install base that is just very happy with an old
> > stable filesystem? Or have all its users migrated to new and exciting
> > filesystems with active feature development?
> >
> > We've removed support for senescent filesystems before (ext, xiafs), so
> > it's not unprecedented. But while I have a clear idea of the benefits to
> > other developers of removing reiserfs, I don't have enough information to
> > weigh the costs to users. Maybe they're happy with having 5.15 support
> > for their reiserfs filesystems and can migrate to another filesystem
> > before they upgrade their kernel after 5.15.
> >
> > Another possibility beyond outright removal would be to trim the kernel
> > code down to read-only support for reiserfs. Most of the quirks of
> > reiserfs have to do with write support, so this could be a useful way
> > forward. Again, I don't have a clear picture of how people actually
> > use reiserfs, so I don't know whether it is useful or not.
> >
> > NB: Please don't discuss the personalities involved. This is purely a
> > "we have old code using old APIs" discussion.
>
> So from my distro experience installed userbase of reiserfs is pretty small
> and shrinking. We still do build reiserfs in openSUSE / SLES kernels but
> for enterprise offerings it is unsupported (for like 3-4 years) and the module
> is not in the default kernel rpm anymore.
I believe I've seen reiserfs in recent Arch Linux ARM installation on
PinePhone. I don't really think you can remove a feature people are
using.
Best regards,
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-04-02 10:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-02-20 12:13 Is it time to remove reiserfs? Matthew Wilcox
2022-02-20 23:21 ` Edward Shishkin
2022-02-20 23:22 ` [PATCH] reiserfs: get rid of AOP_FLAG_CONT_EXPAND flag Edward Shishkin
2022-02-22 10:27 ` Jan Kara
2022-02-22 13:38 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-02-23 12:17 ` Jan Kara
2022-02-22 10:04 ` Is it time to remove reiserfs? Jan Kara
2022-02-22 22:16 ` Dave Chinner
2022-02-23 14:48 ` Byron Stanoszek
2022-02-23 15:28 ` Byron Stanoszek
2022-03-17 8:53 ` Thomas Dreibholz
2022-03-17 9:43 ` Jan Kara
2022-02-24 8:46 ` Jan Kara
2022-02-24 14:24 ` Byron Stanoszek
2022-02-24 21:06 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-02-25 13:10 ` Byron Stanoszek
2022-02-25 13:23 ` Willy Tarreau
2022-02-25 22:56 ` Dave Chinner
2022-02-26 0:00 ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-04-02 10:57 ` Pavel Machek
2022-04-05 23:04 ` Dave Chinner
2022-04-02 10:54 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2022-04-04 8:55 ` Jan Kara
2022-04-04 10:07 ` Pavel Machek
2022-04-04 10:18 ` Willy Tarreau
2022-04-04 10:58 ` Pavel Machek
2022-04-04 13:05 ` Jan Kara
2022-04-04 12:55 ` Jan Kara
2022-04-04 13:16 ` Willy Tarreau
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