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From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] pidfd updates
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2023 18:19:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230425171913.GT3390869@ZenIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjpBq2D97ih_AA0D7+KJ8ihT6WW_cn1BQc43wVgUioH2w@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 09:28:54AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> Now, since they are inline functions, the code generation doesn't
> really change (compilers are smart enough to not actually generate any
> pointer stuff), but I prefer to make things like that expliict, and
> have source code that matches the code generation.
> 
> (Which is also why I do *not* endorse passing bigger structs by value,
> because then the compiler will just pass it as a "pointer to a copy"
> instead, again violating the whole concept of "source matches what
> happens in reality")
> 
> I think the above helper could be improved further with Al's
> suggestion to make 'fd_publish()' return an error code, and allow the
> file pointer (and maybe even the fd index) to be an error pointer (and
> error number), so that you could often unify the error/success paths.
> 
> IOW, I like this, and I think it's superior to my stupid original suggestion.

We'd better collect the data on the current callers first.  There are
several patterns; I'm going through the old (fairly sparse) notes and
the grep over the current tree right now, will post when I get through
that.

That's one area where we had a *lot* of recurring bugs - mostly of
leak/double put variety.  So we'd better have the calling conventions
right wrt how easy it is to fuck up in failure exits.  And we need
to document the patterns/rules for each/reasons for choosing one over
another.

Note that there's also "set the file up, then get descriptor and either
fd_install or fput, depending on get_unused_fd_flags() success";
sometimes it's the only approach (SCM_RIGHTS, for example), sometimes
it's better than "get descriptor, set the file up, then either install
or release descriptor", sometimes it's definitely worse (e.g. for
O_CREAT it's a non-starter).  It should be a deliberate choice.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-25 17:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-21 13:41 [GIT PULL] pidfd updates Christian Brauner
2023-04-24 20:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-04-24 20:35   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-04-25 12:08     ` Christian Brauner
2023-04-25  6:04   ` Al Viro
2023-04-25 12:34     ` Christian Brauner
2023-04-25 13:54       ` Al Viro
2023-04-25 14:36         ` Christian Brauner
2023-04-25 15:48           ` Al Viro
2023-04-25 16:28       ` Linus Torvalds
2023-04-25 17:19         ` Al Viro [this message]
2023-04-28  8:40         ` David Laight
2023-04-28 18:26           ` Linus Torvalds
2023-04-27  1:07       ` Al Viro
2023-04-27  7:39         ` Al Viro
2023-04-27  8:33           ` Christian Brauner
2023-04-27  8:59             ` Al Viro
2023-04-27  9:40               ` Christian Brauner
2023-04-27 15:21           ` Linus Torvalds
2023-04-27 17:02             ` Al Viro
2023-05-02  7:11               ` Christian Brauner
2023-04-27  8:11         ` Christian Brauner
2023-04-24 21:45 ` pr-tracker-bot

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