From: "Kernel.org Bugbot" <bugbot@kernel.org>
To: bugs@lists.linux.dev, willy@infradead.org, brauner@kernel.org,
viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: large pause when opening file descriptor which is power of 2
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 23:42:01 +0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230426-b217366c6-4f880518247a@bugzilla.kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZEl34WthS8UNJnNd@casper.infradead.org>
phemmer+kernel writes via Kernel.org Bugzilla:
(In reply to Bugbot from comment #1)
> Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> writes:
>
> On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 05:58:06PM +0000, Kernel.org Bugbot wrote:
> > When running a threaded program, and opening a file descriptor that
> > is a power of 2 (starting at 64), the call takes a very long time to
> > complete. Normally such a call takes less than 2us. However with this
> > issue, I've seen the call take up to around 50ms. Additionally this only
> > happens the first time, and not subsequent times that file descriptor is
> > used. I'm guessing there might be some expansion of some internal data
> > structures going on. But I cannot see why this process would take so long.
>
> Because we allocate a new block of memory and then memcpy() the old
> block of memory into it. This isn't surprising behaviour to me.
> I don't think there's much we can do to change it (Allocating a
> segmented array of file descriptors has previously been vetoed by
> people who have programs with a million file descriptors). Is it
> causing you problems?
Yes. I'm using using sockets for IPC. Specifically haproxy with its SPOE protocol. Low latency is important. Normally a call (including optional connect if a new connection is needed) will easily complete in under 100us. So I want to set a timeout of 1ms to avoid blocking traffic. However because this issue effectively randomly pops up, that 1ms timeout is too low, and the issue can actually impact multiple in-flight requests because haproxy tries to share that one IPC connection for them all. But if I raise the timeout (and I'd have to raise it to something like 100ms, as I've seen delays up to 47ms in just light testing), then I run the risk of significantly impacting traffic if there is a legitimate slowdown. While a low timeout and the occasional failure is probably the better of the two options, I'd prefer not to fail at all.
View: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217366#c6
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-04-26 23:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-04-26 17:58 large pause when opening file descriptor which is power of 2 Kernel.org Bugbot
2023-04-26 19:13 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-04-26 19:46 ` Al Viro
2023-04-26 19:56 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-04-26 20:33 ` Al Viro
2023-04-26 19:58 ` Al Viro
2023-04-26 23:42 ` Kernel.org Bugbot [this message]
2023-04-27 9:28 ` Christian Brauner
2023-04-27 18:18 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-04-28 0:37 ` Kernel.org Bugbot
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