From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Jonas Oberhauser <jonas.oberhauser@huaweicloud.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] pipe: nonblocking rw for io_uring
Date: Mon, 8 May 2023 10:39:29 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230508083929.GT83892@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <978690c4-1d25-46e8-3375-45940ec1ea51@huaweicloud.com>
On Sun, May 07, 2023 at 04:04:23PM +0200, Jonas Oberhauser wrote:
>
> Am 4/25/2023 um 9:58 PM schrieb Linus Torvalds:
> > Yes, I think Mark is right. It's not that 'old' might be wrong - that
> > doesn't matter because cmpxchg will work it out - it's just that 'new'
> > might not be consistent with the old value we then use.
>
> In the general pattern, besides the potential issue raised by Mark, tearing
> may also be an issue (longer example inspired by a case we met at the end of
> the mail) where 'old' being wrong matters.
There is yet another pattern where it actually matters:
old = READ_ONCE(*ptr);
do {
if (cond(old))
return false;
new = func(old);
} while (!try_cmpxchg(ptr, &old, new));
return true;
In this case we rely on old being 'coherent'. The more obvious case is
where it returns old (also not uncommon), but even if it just checks a
(multi-bit) condition on old you don't want tearing.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-05-08 8:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-04-21 14:01 [GIT PULL] pipe: nonblocking rw for io_uring Christian Brauner
2023-04-24 21:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-04-24 21:22 ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-24 21:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-04-24 21:55 ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-24 22:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-04-24 22:05 ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-24 22:03 ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-24 21:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-04-24 22:07 ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-24 22:44 ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-25 3:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-04-25 13:46 ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-25 17:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-04-25 19:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-04-25 19:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-04-25 20:10 ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-25 20:29 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <978690c4-1d25-46e8-3375-45940ec1ea51@huaweicloud.com>
2023-05-08 8:39 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2023-05-08 10:16 ` David Laight
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