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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	ksummit@lists.linux.dev, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS/KERNEL SUMMIT] Trust and maintenance of file systems
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2023 07:18:01 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230907071801.1d37a3c5@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZPlFwHQhJS+Td6Cz@dread.disaster.area>

On Thu, 7 Sep 2023 13:38:40 +1000
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:

> Hence, IMO, gutting a filesystem implementation to just support
> read-only behaviour "to prolong it's support life" actually makes
> things worse from a maintenance and testing persepective, not
> better....

From your other email about 10 years support, you could first set a fs to
read-only, and then after so long (I'm not sure 10 years is really
necessary), then remove it.

That is, make it the stage before removal. If no one complains about it
being read-only after several years, then it's highly likely that no one is
using it. If someone does complain, you can tell them to either maintain
it, or start moving all their data to another fs.

For testing, you could even have an #ifdef that needs to be manually
changed (not a config option) to make it writable.

-- Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-07 17:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-30 14:07 [MAINTAINERS/KERNEL SUMMIT] Trust and maintenance of file systems Christoph Hellwig
2023-09-05 23:06 ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-05 23:23   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-06  2:09     ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-06 15:06       ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-06 15:59         ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-06 19:09         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-08  8:34         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-09-07  0:46     ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-09-09 12:50     ` James Bottomley
2023-09-09 15:44       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-10 19:51         ` James Bottomley
2023-09-10 20:19           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-09-10 21:15           ` Guenter Roeck
2023-09-11  3:10           ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-09-11 19:03             ` James Bottomley
2023-09-12  0:23               ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-12 16:52             ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-09-09 22:42       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-09-10  8:19         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-10  8:37           ` Bernd Schubert
2023-09-10 16:35           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-09-10 17:26             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-10 17:35               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-09-11  1:05         ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-11  1:29           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-09-11  2:07             ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-11 13:35               ` David Disseldorp
2023-09-11 17:45                 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-09-11 19:11                   ` David Disseldorp
2023-09-11 23:05                 ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-26  5:24           ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-09-08  8:55   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-09-08 22:47     ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-06 22:32 ` Guenter Roeck
2023-09-06 22:54   ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-07  0:53     ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-09-07  3:14       ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-07  1:53     ` Steven Rostedt
2023-09-07  2:22       ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-07  2:51         ` Steven Rostedt
2023-09-07  3:26           ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-07  8:04             ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2023-09-07 10:29               ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-07 11:18                 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2023-09-07 12:04                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-07 12:57                   ` Guenter Roeck
2023-09-07 13:56                     ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-08  8:44                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-09-07  3:38           ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-07 11:18             ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2023-09-13 16:43               ` Eric Sandeen
2023-09-13 16:58                 ` Guenter Roeck
2023-09-13 17:03                 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-15 22:48                   ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-16 19:44                     ` Steven Rostedt
2023-09-16 21:50                     ` James Bottomley
2023-09-17  1:40                       ` NeilBrown
2023-09-17 17:30                         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-17 18:09                           ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-17 18:57                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-09-17 19:45                             ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-18 11:14                               ` Jan Kara
2023-09-18 17:26                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-18 19:32                                   ` Jiri Kosina
2023-09-18 19:59                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-18 20:50                                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-09-18 22:48                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-18 20:33                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-09-19  4:56                                   ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-25  9:43                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-09-27 22:23                                 ` Dave Kleikamp
2023-09-19  1:15                           ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-19  5:17                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-19 16:34                               ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-09-19 16:45                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-19 17:15                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-19 22:57                               ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-18 14:54                       ` Bill O'Donnell
2023-09-19  2:44                       ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-19 16:57                         ` James Bottomley
2023-09-25  9:38                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-09-25 14:14                     ` Dan Carpenter
2023-09-25 16:50                     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-07  9:48       ` Dan Carpenter
2023-09-07 11:04         ` Segher Boessenkool
2023-09-07 11:22           ` Steven Rostedt
2023-09-07 12:24             ` Segher Boessenkool
2023-09-07 11:23           ` Dan Carpenter
2023-09-07 12:30             ` Segher Boessenkool
2023-09-12  9:50               ` Richard Biener
2023-10-23  5:19                 ` Eric Gallager
2023-09-08  8:39       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-09-08  8:38     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-09-08 23:21       ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-07  0:48   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-09-07  3:07     ` Guenter Roeck

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