From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735DEC2BA12 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2023 19:44:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S236879AbjIPToU (ORCPT ); Sat, 16 Sep 2023 15:44:20 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:45852 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S237828AbjIPToI (ORCPT ); Sat, 16 Sep 2023 15:44:08 -0400 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 050F6CDE for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2023 12:44:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E20F7C433C7; Sat, 16 Sep 2023 19:44:00 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2023 15:44:27 -0400 From: Steven Rostedt To: Dave Chinner Cc: Linus Torvalds , Eric Sandeen , Guenter Roeck , Christoph Hellwig , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS/KERNEL SUMMIT] Trust and maintenance of file systems Message-ID: <20230916154427.657bfe93@gandalf.local.home> In-Reply-To: References: <8718a8a3-1e62-0e2b-09d0-7bce3155b045@roeck-us.net> <20230906215327.18a45c89@gandalf.local.home> <20230906225139.6ffe953c@gandalf.local.home> <20230907071801.1d37a3c5@gandalf.local.home> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.19.1 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 08:48:02 +1000 Dave Chinner wrote: > > - "they use the buffer cache". > > > > Waah, waah, waah. > > .... you dismiss those concerns in the same way a 6 year old school > yard bully taunts his suffering victims. > > Regardless of the merits of the observation you've made, the tone > and content of this response is *completely unacceptable*. Please > keep to technical arguments, Linus, because this sort of response > has no merit what-so-ever. All it does is shut down the technical > discussion because no-one wants to be the target of this sort of > ugly abuse just for participating in a technical discussion. > > Given the number of top level maintainers that signed off on the CoC > that are present in this forum, I had an expectation that this is a > forum where bad behaviour is not tolerated at all. So I've waited a > couple of days to see if anyone in a project leadership position is > going to say something about this comment..... > > > > The deafening silence of tacit acceptance is far more damning than > the high pitched squeal of Linus's childish taunts. Being one of those that signed off on the CoC, I honestly didn't see this until you pointed it out. As I'm not a file system maintainer I have been mostly just skimming the emails in this thread. I had this one marked as read, but I only really read the first half of it. Even though I didn't see it, I will admit that even if I had, I would not have said anything because I'm so use to it and I'm somewhat blind to it until someone points it out to me. I'm not on the CoC committee, but I am on the TAB, and I will officially state that comment was not appropriate. Linus, please let's keep this technical. -- Steve