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From: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
To: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL v2] timestamp fixes
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2023 12:26:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230924-trial-dennoch-e641f0e0ee1b@brauner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOQ4uxgFb250Na9cJz0Jo-ioPynWCk0vxTDU-6hAKoEVQhgvRg@mail.gmail.com>

> > Those workloads are broken garbage, and we should *not* use that kind
> > of sh*t to decide on VFS internals.
> >
> 
> Sorry, I phrased it completely wrong.

Thanks for clearing this up. I had just formulated my own reply but I'll
happily delete it. :)

> The workloads don't expect 1ns resolution.

Yes, they don't. In the revert explanation I just used that number to
illustrate the general ordering problem. The workload that surfaced the
issue is just plain weird of course but it points to a more general
ordering problem.

> The workloads just compare timestamps of objects and expect some sane
> not-before ordering rules.

Yes.

> If user visible timestamps are truncated to 100ns all is good.

Yes.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-24 10:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-21 11:20 [GIT PULL v2] timestamp fixes Christian Brauner
2023-09-21 18:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-21 18:51   ` Jeff Layton
2023-09-21 19:28     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-21 19:46       ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-21 21:57         ` Jeff Layton
2023-09-22 12:28           ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-22 10:19       ` David Sterba
2023-09-23  6:36       ` Amir Goldstein
2023-09-23 17:48         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-23 19:30           ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-09-23 20:03             ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-23 22:07               ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-09-23 23:31                 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-23 21:29           ` Amir Goldstein
2023-09-24 10:26             ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2023-09-25 11:22           ` Jeff Layton
2023-09-25 16:02             ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-22 12:24     ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-24  8:34     ` Amir Goldstein
2023-09-24 10:15       ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-22 12:16   ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-21 20:10 ` pr-tracker-bot

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