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From: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Shirley Ma <shirley.ma@oracle.com>,
	hch@lst.de, jstancek@redhat.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] iomap: bug fixes for 6.6-rc7
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2023 13:54:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231026-gehofft-vorfreude-a5079bff7373@brauner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231026031325.GH3195650@frogsfrogsfrogs>

On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 08:13:25PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 01:47:17PM +0200, Christian Brauner wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 03:38:10PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > > On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 09:46:35AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 at 23:27, Darrick J. Wong <djwong@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Please pull this branch with changes for iomap for 6.6-rc7.
> > > > >
> > > > > As usual, I did a test-merge with the main upstream branch as of a few
> > > > > minutes ago, and didn't see any conflicts.  Please let me know if you
> > > > > encounter any problems.
> > > > 
> > > > .. and as usual, the branch you point to does not actually exist.
> > > > 
> > > > Because you *again* pointed to the wrong tree.
> > > > 
> > > > This time I remembered what the mistake was last time, and picked out
> > > > the right tree by hand, but *please* just fix your completely broken
> > > > scripts or workflow.
> > > > 
> > > > > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/djwong/xfs-linux.git iomap-6.6-fixes-5
> > > > 
> > > > No.
> > > > 
> > > > It's pub/scm/fs/xfs/xfs-linux, once again.
> > > 
> > > Sorry about that.  After reviewing the output of git request-pull, I
> > > have learned that if you provide a $url argument that does not point to
> > > a repo containing $start, it will print a warning to stderr and emit a
> > > garbage pull request to stdout anyway.  No --force required or anything.
> > > Piping stdout to mutt without checking the return code is therefore a
> > > bad idea.
> > > 
> > > I have now updated my wrapper script to buffer the entire pull request
> > > contents and check the return value before proceeding.
> > > 
> > > It is a poor workman who blames his tools, so I declare publicly that
> > > you have an idiot for a maintainer.
> > > 
> > > Christian: Do you have the bandwidth to take over fs/iomap/?
> > 
> > If this helps you I will take iomap over but only if you and Christoph
> > stay around as main reviewers.
> 
> I can't speak for Christoph, but I am very much willing to continue
> developing patches for fs/iomap, running the QA farm to make sure it's
> working properly, and reviewing everyone else's patches.  Same as I do
> now.
> 
> What I would like to concentrate on in the future are:
> 
> (a) improving documentation and cleanups that other fs maintainers have
>     been asking for and I haven't had time to work on
> 
> (b) helping interested fs maintainers port their fs to iomap for better
>     performance
> 
> (c) figuring out how to integrate smoothly with things like fsverity and
>     fscrypt
> 
> (d) not stepping on *your* toes every time you want to change something
>     in the vfs only to have it collide with iomap changes that you
>     didn't see
> 
> Similar to what we just did with XFS, I propose breaking up the iomap
> Maintainer role into pieces that are more manageable by a single person.

Sounds good.

> As RM, all you'd have to do is integrate reviewed patches and pull
> requests into one of your work branches.  That gives you final say over
> what goes in and how it goes in, instead of letting branches collide in
> for-next without warning.
> 
> You can still forward on the review requests and bug reports to me.

Ok, cool.

> That part isn't changing.  I've enjoyed working with you and hope
> that'll continue well into the future. :)

Thanks. That's good to hear and right back at you.

> 
> > There's not much point in me pretending I
> > can meaningfully review fs/iomap/ and I don't have the bandwith even if
> > I could. So not without clear reviewers.
> 
> I hope the above assuades your concerns/fears!

Yes.

> 
> > But, - and I'm sorry if I may overstep bounds a little bit - I think
> > this self-castigation is really unwarranted. And we all very much know
> > that you definitely aren't an idiot. And personally I think we shouldn't
> > give the impression that we expect this sort of repentance when we make
> > mistakes.
> > 
> > In other words, if the sole reason you're proposing this is an
> > objectively false belief then I would suggest to reconsider.
> 
> Quite the opposite, these are changes that I've been wanting to make for
> months. :)

In that case I would propose you send a patch to Linus for MAINTAINERS
updating the tree and the entries for iomap. I believe it's customary
for the current maintainer to do this.

Thanks!
Christian

  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-26 11:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-21  6:27 [GIT PULL] iomap: bug fixes for 6.6-rc7 Darrick J. Wong
2023-10-21 16:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-23 22:38   ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-10-24 11:47     ` Christian Brauner
2023-10-26  3:13       ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-10-26 11:54         ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2023-10-27  0:43           ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-10-26 18:10         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-26 20:20           ` Jeff Layton
2023-10-27 18:46           ` Christian Brauner
2023-10-27 23:30             ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-28 16:56               ` Christian Brauner
2023-10-21 17:57 ` pr-tracker-bot

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