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From: Daejun Park <daejun7.park@samsung.com>
To: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>,
	Daejun Park <daejun7.park@samsung.com>,
	KANCHAN JOSHI <joshi.k@samsung.com>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
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Subject: RE:(2) (2) [PATCH v3 01/14] fs: Move enum rw_hint into a new header file
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2023 16:31:55 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231102073155epcms2p3d1e288b7b81e213fbb32ecc0cc48e094@epcms2p3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c06b2624-b05b-48d4-840d-beb208aa33dc@acm.org>

Hi Bart,

>On 10/31/23 23:39, Daejun Park wrote:
>>> On 10/30/23 04:11, Kanchan Joshi wrote:
>>>> On 10/18/2023 2:17 AM, Bart Van Assche wrote:
>>> Thanks for having taken a look at this patch series. Jens asked for data
>>> that shows that this patch series improves performance. Is this
>>> something Samsung can help with?
>> 
>> We analyzed the NAND block erase counter with and without stream separation
>> through a long-term workload in F2FS.
>> The analysis showed that the erase counter is reduced by approximately 40%
>> with stream seperation.
>> Long-term workload is a scenario where erase and write are repeated by
>> stream after performing precondition fill for each temperature of F2FS.
>
>Hi Daejun,
>
>Thank you for having shared this data. This is very helpful. Since I'm
>not familiar with the erase counter: does the above data perhaps mean
>that write amplification is reduced by 40% in the workload that has been
>examined?

WAF is not only caused by GC. It is also caused by other reasons.
During device GC, the valid pages in the victim block are migrated, and a
lower erase counter means that the effective GC is performed by selecting
a victim block with a small number of invalid pages.
Thus, it can be said that the WAF can be decreased about 40% by selecting
fewer victim blocks during device GC.

Thanks,

Daejun

>
>Thanks,
>
>Bart.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-02  7:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-17 20:47 [PATCH v3 00/14] Pass data temperature information to SCSI disk devices Bart Van Assche
2023-10-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 01/14] fs: Move enum rw_hint into a new header file Bart Van Assche
2023-10-30 11:11   ` Kanchan Joshi
2023-10-30 16:10     ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]     ` <CGME20231017204823epcas5p2798d17757d381aaf7ad4dd235f3f0da3@epcms2p1>
2023-11-01  6:39       ` Daejun Park
2023-11-01 16:45         ` (2) " Bart Van Assche
     [not found]         ` <CGME20231017204823epcas5p2798d17757d381aaf7ad4dd235f3f0da3@epcms2p3>
2023-11-02  7:31           ` Daejun Park [this message]
2023-10-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 02/14] block: Restore data lifetime support in struct bio and struct request Bart Van Assche
2023-10-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 03/14] fs: Restore write hint support Bart Van Assche
2023-10-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 04/14] fs/f2fs: Restore data lifetime support Bart Van Assche
2023-10-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 05/14] scsi: core: Query the Block Limits Extension VPD page Bart Van Assche
2023-10-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 06/14] scsi_proto: Add structures and constants related to I/O groups and streams Bart Van Assche
2023-10-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 07/14] sd: Translate data lifetime information Bart Van Assche
2023-10-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 08/14] scsi_debug: Reduce code duplication Bart Van Assche
2023-10-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 09/14] scsi_debug: Support the block limits extension VPD page Bart Van Assche
2023-10-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 10/14] scsi_debug: Rework page code error handling Bart Van Assche
2023-10-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 11/14] scsi_debug: Rework subpage " Bart Van Assche
2023-10-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 12/14] scsi_debug: Implement the IO Advice Hints Grouping mode page Bart Van Assche
2023-10-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 13/14] scsi_debug: Implement GET STREAM STATUS Bart Van Assche
2023-10-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v3 14/14] scsi_debug: Maintain write statistics per group number Bart Van Assche
2023-10-18 19:09 ` [PATCH v3 00/14] Pass data temperature information to SCSI disk devices Jens Axboe
2023-10-18 19:34   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-19  0:33     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-10-19 16:48       ` Bart Van Assche
2023-10-19 22:40         ` Damien Le Moal
2023-10-19 23:00           ` Damien Le Moal
2023-10-20 20:45   ` Bart Van Assche

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