From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 17/22] don't try to cut corners in shrink_lock_dentry()
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2023 18:20:50 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231109182050.GA1957730@ZenIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wgapOW-HfnpE-UEfROxMB6ec84bDUDHcKWxyxp1v1o2Uw@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 09:39:09AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Nov 2023 at 22:23, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > static struct dentry *__lock_parent(struct dentry *dentry)
> > {
> > struct dentry *parent;
> > - rcu_read_lock();
> > - spin_unlock(&dentry->d_lock);
> > again:
> > parent = READ_ONCE(dentry->d_parent);
> > spin_lock(&parent->d_lock);
>
> Can we rename this while at it?
>
> That name *used* to make sense, in that the function was entered with
> the dentry lock held, and then it returned with the dentry lock *and*
> the parent lock held.
>
> But now you've changed the rules so that the dentry lock is *not* held
> at entry, so now the semantics of that function is essentially "lock
> dentry and parent". Which I think means that the name should change to
> reflect that.
>
> Finally: it does look like most callers actually did hold the dentry
> lock, and that you just moved the
>
> spin_unlock(&dentry->d_lock);
>
> from inside that function to the caller. I don't hate that, but now
> that I look at it, I get the feeling that what we *should* have done
> is
>
> static struct dentry *__lock_parent(struct dentry *dentry)
> {
> struct dentry *parent = dentry->d_parent;
> if (try_spin_lock(&parent->d_lock))
> return parent;
> /* Uhhuh - need to get the parent lock first */
> .. old code goes here ..
>
> but that won't work with the new world order.
Can't - currently lock_for_kill() uses it in a loop. Can't have trylocks
in there, or realtime setups will get unhappy. More to the point, the whole
function is gone by the end of the series. Along with lock_parent().
The only reason why we needed that thing is that we lock the parent too
early; that's where the last commit in the series is a big win. There
we remove from the parent's list of children in the very end, when we'd
already made the victim negative (and unlocked it); there ->d_parent
is stable and we can simply lock that, then lock dentry.
We still need a loop in lock_for_kill() to get the inode locked along
with dentry, but that's less convoluted (the ordering between two
->d_lock can change; ->i_lock is always safe to take before ->d_lock).
> So I get the feeling that maybe instead of renaming it for the new
> semantics, maybe the old semantics of "called with the dentry lock
> held" were simply better"
lock_parent() goes aways when d_prune_alias() is switched to shrink list;
after that __lock_parent() is used only in that loop in lock_for_kill()
and only until (22/22) when lock_for_kill() stops touching the parent.
After that it's simply gone.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-09 18:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-30 0:37 [RFC] simplifying fast_dput(), dentry_kill() et.al Al Viro
2023-10-30 21:53 ` Al Viro
2023-10-30 22:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-31 0:18 ` Al Viro
2023-10-31 1:53 ` Al Viro
2023-10-31 6:12 ` Al Viro
2023-11-01 6:18 ` Al Viro
2023-11-01 6:20 ` [PATCH 01/15] fast_dput(): having ->d_delete() is not reason to delay refcount decrement Al Viro
2023-11-01 6:20 ` [PATCH 02/15] fast_dput(): handle underflows gracefully Al Viro
2023-11-01 6:20 ` [PATCH 03/15] fast_dput(): new rules for refcount Al Viro
2023-11-01 6:20 ` [PATCH 04/15] __dput_to_list(): do decrement of refcount in the caller Al Viro
2023-11-01 6:20 ` [PATCH 05/15] retain_dentry(): lift decrement of ->d_count into callers Al Viro
2023-11-01 6:20 ` [PATCH 06/15] __dentry_kill(): get consistent rules for ->d_count Al Viro
2023-11-01 6:20 ` [PATCH 07/15] dentry_kill(): don't bother with retain_dentry() on slow path Al Viro
2023-11-01 6:20 ` [PATCH 08/15] Call retain_dentry() with refcount 0 Al Viro
2023-11-01 6:20 ` [PATCH 09/15] fold the call of retain_dentry() into fast_dput() Al Viro
2023-11-01 8:45 ` Al Viro
2023-11-01 17:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-11-01 18:19 ` Al Viro
2023-11-10 4:20 ` lockless case of retain_dentry() (was Re: [PATCH 09/15] fold the call of retain_dentry() into fast_dput()) Al Viro
2023-11-10 5:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-11-10 6:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-11-22 6:29 ` Guo Ren
2023-11-10 8:19 ` Al Viro
2023-11-22 7:19 ` Guo Ren
2023-11-22 17:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-11-22 17:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-11-22 18:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-11-22 19:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-11-29 7:14 ` Guo Ren
2023-11-29 12:25 ` Guo Ren
2023-11-29 14:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-11-26 16:39 ` Guo Ren
2023-11-26 16:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-11-30 10:00 ` Guo Ren
2023-12-01 1:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-12-01 3:36 ` Guo Ren
2023-12-01 5:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-12-01 7:31 ` Guo Ren
2023-11-26 16:51 ` Guo Ren
2023-11-26 17:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-11-26 17:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-11-29 9:52 ` Guo Ren
2023-11-01 6:20 ` [PATCH 10/15] don't try to cut corners in shrink_lock_dentry() Al Viro
2023-11-01 6:21 ` [PATCH 11/15] fold dentry_kill() into dput() Al Viro
2023-11-01 6:21 ` [PATCH 12/15] get rid of __dget() Al Viro
2023-11-01 6:21 ` [PATCH 13/15] shrink_dentry_list(): no need to check that dentry refcount is marked dead Al Viro
2023-11-01 6:21 ` [PATCH 14/15] to_shrink_list(): call only if refcount is 0 Al Viro
2023-11-01 6:21 ` [PATCH 15/15] switch select_collect{,2}() to use of to_shrink_list() Al Viro
2023-11-01 2:22 ` [RFC] simplifying fast_dput(), dentry_kill() et.al Al Viro
2023-11-01 14:29 ` Benjamin Coddington
2023-11-05 19:54 ` Al Viro
2023-11-05 21:59 ` Al Viro
2023-11-06 5:53 ` Al Viro
2023-11-07 2:08 ` Al Viro
2023-11-09 6:19 ` [RFC][PATCHSET v2] " Al Viro
2023-11-09 6:20 ` [PATCH 01/22] struct dentry: get rid of randomize_layout idiocy Al Viro
2023-11-09 6:20 ` [PATCH 02/22] switch nfsd_client_rmdir() to use of simple_recursive_removal() Al Viro
2023-11-09 13:42 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-09 14:01 ` Chuck Lever
2023-11-09 18:47 ` Al Viro
2023-11-09 18:50 ` Chuck Lever III
2023-11-09 6:20 ` [PATCH 03/22] coda_flag_children(): cope with dentries turning negative Al Viro
2023-11-09 13:43 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-09 6:20 ` [PATCH 04/22] dentry: switch the lists of children to hlist Al Viro
2023-11-09 13:48 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-09 19:32 ` Al Viro
2023-11-09 6:20 ` [PATCH 05/22] centralize killing dentry from shrink list Al Viro
2023-11-09 13:49 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-09 6:20 ` [PATCH 06/22] get rid of __dget() Al Viro
2023-11-09 13:50 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-09 6:20 ` [PATCH 07/22] shrink_dentry_list(): no need to check that dentry refcount is marked dead Al Viro
2023-11-09 13:53 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-09 20:28 ` Al Viro
2023-11-09 6:20 ` [PATCH 08/22] fast_dput(): having ->d_delete() is not reason to delay refcount decrement Al Viro
2023-11-09 13:58 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-09 6:20 ` [PATCH 09/22] fast_dput(): handle underflows gracefully Al Viro
2023-11-09 14:46 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-09 20:39 ` Al Viro
2023-11-09 6:20 ` [PATCH 10/22] fast_dput(): new rules for refcount Al Viro
2023-11-09 14:54 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-09 20:52 ` Al Viro
2023-11-09 6:20 ` [PATCH 11/22] __dput_to_list(): do decrement of refcount in the callers Al Viro
2023-11-09 15:21 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-09 6:20 ` [PATCH 12/22] Make retain_dentry() neutral with respect to refcounting Al Viro
2023-11-09 15:22 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-09 6:20 ` [PATCH 13/22] __dentry_kill(): get consistent rules for victim's refcount Al Viro
2023-11-09 15:27 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-09 6:20 ` [PATCH 14/22] dentry_kill(): don't bother with retain_dentry() on slow path Al Viro
2023-11-09 15:53 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-09 21:29 ` Al Viro
2023-11-09 6:20 ` [PATCH 15/22] Call retain_dentry() with refcount 0 Al Viro
2023-11-09 16:09 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-09 6:20 ` [PATCH 16/22] fold the call of retain_dentry() into fast_dput() Al Viro
2023-11-09 16:17 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-09 6:20 ` [PATCH 17/22] don't try to cut corners in shrink_lock_dentry() Al Viro
2023-11-09 17:20 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-09 21:45 ` Al Viro
2023-11-10 9:07 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-09 17:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-11-09 18:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-11-09 18:20 ` Al Viro [this message]
2023-11-09 6:20 ` [PATCH 18/22] fold dentry_kill() into dput() Al Viro
2023-11-09 17:22 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-09 6:20 ` [PATCH 19/22] to_shrink_list(): call only if refcount is 0 Al Viro
2023-11-09 17:29 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-09 6:20 ` [PATCH 20/22] switch select_collect{,2}() to use of to_shrink_list() Al Viro
2023-11-09 17:31 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-09 6:20 ` [PATCH 21/22] d_prune_aliases(): use a shrink list Al Viro
2023-11-09 17:33 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-09 6:20 ` [PATCH 22/22] __dentry_kill(): new locking scheme Al Viro
2023-11-10 13:34 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-09 13:33 ` [PATCH 01/22] struct dentry: get rid of randomize_layout idiocy Christian Brauner
2023-10-31 2:25 ` [RFC] simplifying fast_dput(), dentry_kill() et.al Gao Xiang
2023-10-31 2:29 ` Gao Xiang
2023-10-31 3:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-31 3:13 ` Gao Xiang
2023-10-31 3:26 ` Al Viro
2023-10-31 3:41 ` Linus Torvalds
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