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From: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Cc: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Donald Buczek <buczek@molgen.mpg.de>,
	linux-bcachefs@vger.kernel.org,
	Stefan Krueger <stefan.krueger@aei.mpg.de>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: file handle in statx (was: Re: How to cope with subvolumes and snapshots on muti-user systems?)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2023 10:35:42 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231212153542.kl2fbzrabhr6kai5@moria.home.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231212-neudefinition-hingucken-785061b73237@brauner>

On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 04:29:09PM +0100, Christian Brauner wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 10:16:31AM -0500, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 09:56:45AM +0100, Christian Brauner wrote:
> > > On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 08:32:55AM +0200, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> > > > > >  STATX_ATTR_INUM_NOT_UNIQUE - it is possible that two files have the
> > > > > >                               same inode number
> > > 
> > > This is just ugly with questionable value. A constant reminder of how
> > > broken this is. Exposing the subvolume id also makes this somewhat redundant.
> > 
> > Oh hell no. We finally get a reasonably productive discussion and I wake
> > up to you calling things ugly and broken, with no reason or
> > justification or any response to the justification that's already been
> > given?
> > 
> > Christain, that's not how we do things. Let's not turn what was a
> > productive discussion into a trainwreck, OK?
> 
> That's a major aggressive tone for no good reason. And probably not a
> good way to convince anyone. I'm also not sure why you're taking a
> dislike of this flag as a personal affront.

No, if you're going to show up with comments like that it is entirely
called for.

Other poeple have been finding ways to contribute to the technical
discussion; just calling things "ugly and broken" does not.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-12 15:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2023-12-11 23:32                   ` file handle in statx (was: Re: How to cope with subvolumes and snapshots on muti-user systems?) Kent Overstreet
2023-12-11 23:53                     ` NeilBrown
2023-12-12  0:05                       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-12  0:59                         ` NeilBrown
2023-12-12  1:10                           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-12  2:13                             ` NeilBrown
2023-12-12  2:24                               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-12  9:08                               ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-12  5:53                           ` Dave Chinner
2023-12-12  6:32                             ` Amir Goldstein
2023-12-12  8:56                               ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-12 15:16                                 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-12 15:29                                   ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-12 15:35                                     ` Kent Overstreet [this message]
2023-12-12 15:38                                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-12-12 15:43                                         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-12 15:57                                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-12-12 16:08                                             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-12 16:30                                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-12-12 16:41                                                 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-12 21:53                                                 ` NeilBrown
2023-12-13  9:41                                               ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-12 21:46                                         ` NeilBrown
2023-12-13  9:47                                           ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-13 10:04                                             ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-14 22:47                                             ` NeilBrown
2023-12-15  0:36                                               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-12  9:10                               ` David Howells
2023-12-12  9:23                                 ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-12  9:28                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-12-12  9:35                                     ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-12  9:42                                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-12-12 13:47                                         ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-12 14:06                                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-12-12 15:24                                             ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-12 15:28                                       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-12  9:46                                 ` David Howells
2023-12-12  9:10                             ` file handle in statx Donald Buczek
2023-12-12 15:20                               ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-12-12 17:15                                 ` Frank Filz
2023-12-12 17:44                                   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-12 18:17                                     ` Amir Goldstein
2023-12-12 19:18                                       ` Frank Filz
2023-12-12 20:59                                   ` Dave Chinner
2023-12-12 21:57                                     ` NeilBrown
2023-12-12 22:23                                       ` Dave Chinner
2023-12-12 22:36                                         ` NeilBrown
2023-12-12 22:39                                         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-12 23:44                                           ` Dave Chinner
2023-12-13  0:00                                             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-13  7:37                                 ` Donald Buczek
2023-12-13 12:28                                   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-13 13:48                                     ` Donald Buczek
2023-12-19  7:41                                       ` Donald Buczek
2023-12-12 15:21                             ` file handle in statx (was: Re: How to cope with subvolumes and snapshots on muti-user systems?) Kent Overstreet
2023-12-12 20:48                               ` Dave Chinner
2023-12-12 21:23                                 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-12 22:10                                   ` Dave Chinner
2023-12-12 22:31                                     ` NeilBrown
2023-12-12 23:06                                       ` Dave Chinner
2023-12-12 23:42                                         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-13  0:03                                         ` NeilBrown
2023-12-12 22:00                                 ` NeilBrown
2023-12-12  7:03                           ` David Howells
2023-12-12  0:25                     ` David Howells
2023-12-11 23:40                   ` David Howells
2023-12-12 20:59                     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-12 22:57                       ` NeilBrown
2023-12-12 23:43                         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-13  0:02                           ` NeilBrown
2023-12-13  0:14                             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-13 22:45                             ` Andreas Dilger
2023-12-13 23:24                               ` Kent Overstreet

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