From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C22D028E02 for ; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 14:54:15 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1706367255; cv=none; b=lrOBeuOXzkahNSerdKpYxWjoyqquRwmEN/zmi+7jNufogRfXCBItzWiMNoJuZQBSOaxeN4LRkiUxi0JH5P+FFf5lLQVZ/dL5GTb4EWTKvLYNkrm+wfSb9p5bFk91k121lRYxqJ50d4X53hvNRewhcI+ZEPJXDNgIShFQxotS1Ec= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1706367255; c=relaxed/simple; bh=LQ1sGySf8PM4/fBTco9r88JsK6i5eRBbup78E/jD4q0=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WLF9E2Ba+jFm8WkkHq0ijnkfY1/RefSvyZdo44W0vbJa0cxMSR6ZnQvTHn/CurA5efq7yGHe2+XQjFJhIOrfiww0c0dWraIvgOCZpMHcY3A1NO3hjXUDy37Wn2U89qQ43caZ11RnmV3R3Xvo7j+1rBVI+lRHde0twAEnxTPthJo= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3F863C433F1; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 14:54:14 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2024 09:54:12 -0500 From: Steven Rostedt To: Amir Goldstein Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman , lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, Christian Brauner , Al Viro , Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] Making pseudo file systems inodes/dentries more like normal file systems Message-ID: <20240127095412.46b6e3dc@rorschach.local.home> In-Reply-To: References: <20240125104822.04a5ad44@gandalf.local.home> <2024012522-shorten-deviator-9f45@gregkh> <20240125205055.2752ac1c@rorschach.local.home> <2024012528-caviar-gumming-a14b@gregkh> <20240125214007.67d45fcf@rorschach.local.home> <2024012634-rotten-conjoined-0a98@gregkh> <20240126101553.7c22b054@gandalf.local.home> <2024012600-dose-happiest-f57d@gregkh> <20240126114451.17be7e15@gandalf.local.home> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.8 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 12:15:00 +0200 Amir Goldstein wrote: > > > > I would like to attend the talk about what happened since we suggested > that you use kernfs in LSFMM 2022 and what has happened since. It was the lack of documentation to understand the concept it was using. As I was very familiar with the way debugfs worked, I couldn't map that same logic to how kernfs worked for what I wanted to do. I remember spending a lot of time on it but just kept getting lost. I then went to see if just modifying the current method with tracefs that was like debugfs and things made a lot more sense. I guess the biggest failure in that was my thinking that using the dentry as the main handle was the proper way to do things, as supposed to being the exact opposite. If I had known that from the beginning, I probably would have approached it much differently. > I am being serious, I am not being sarcastic and I am not claiming that > you did anything wrong :) Thanks ;-) > > Also ,please do not forget to also fill out the Google form: > > https://forms.gle/TGCgBDH1x5pXiWFo7 Crap, I keep forgetting about that form. > > So we have your attendance request with suggested topics in our spreadsheet. Appreciate it. -- Steve