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From: Alexander Mikhalitsyn <aleksandr.mikhalitsyn@canonical.com>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Cc: mszeredi@redhat.com, stgraber@stgraber.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Seth Forshee <sforshee@kernel.org>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
	Bernd Schubert <bschubert@ddn.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/9] fuse: basic support for idmapped mounts
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2024 17:52:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240129175246.d329155abb7c299f58783d7f@canonical.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240121-pfeffer-erkranken-f32c63956aac@brauner>

On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 18:50:57 +0100
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 08, 2024 at 01:08:15PM +0100, Alexander Mikhalitsyn wrote:
> > Dear friends,
> > 
> > This patch series aimed to provide support for idmapped mounts
> > for fuse. We already have idmapped mounts support for almost all
> > widely-used filesystems:
> > * local (ext4, btrfs, xfs, fat, vfat, ntfs3, squashfs, f2fs, erofs, ZFS (out-of-tree))
> > * network (ceph)
> > 
> > Git tree (based on https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mszeredi/fuse.git/log/?h=for-next):
> > v1: https://github.com/mihalicyn/linux/commits/fuse_idmapped_mounts.v1
> > current: https://github.com/mihalicyn/linux/commits/fuse_idmapped_mounts
> 
> Great work!
> 
> > Things to discuss:
> > - we enable idmapped mounts support only if "default_permissions" mode is enabled,
> > because otherwise, we would need to deal with UID/GID mappings on the userspace side OR
> > provide the userspace with idmapped req->in.h.uid/req->in.h.gid values which is not
> > something that we probably want to do. Idmapped mounts philosophy is not about faking
> > caller uid/gid.
> 
> Having VFS idmaps but then outsourcing permission checking to userspace
> is conceptually strange so requiring default_permissions is the correct
> thing to do. 
> 
> > - We have a small offlist discussion with Christian about adding fs_type->allow_idmap
> > hook. Christian pointed out that it would be nice to have a superblock flag instead like
> > SB_I_NOIDMAP and we can set this flag during mount time if we see that the filesystem does not
> > support idmappings. But, unfortunately, I didn't succeed here because the kernel will
> > know if the filesystem supports idmapping or not after FUSE_INIT request, but FUSE_INIT request
> > is being sent at the end of the mounting process, so the mount and superblock will exist and
> > visible by the userspace in that time. It seems like setting SB_I_NOIDMAP flag, in this
> > case, is too late as a user may do the trick by creating an idmapped mount while it wasn't
> > restricted by SB_I_NOIDMAP. Alternatively, we can introduce a "positive" version SB_I_ALLOWIDMAP
> 
> I see.
> 
> > and a "weak" version of FS_ALLOW_IDMAP like FS_MAY_ALLOW_IDMAP. So if FS_MAY_ALLOW_IDMAP is set,
> > then SB_I_ALLOWIDMAP has to be set on the superblock to allow the creation of an idmapped mount.
> > But that's a matter of our discussion.
> 
> I dislike making adding a struct super_block method. Because it means that we
> call into the filesystem from generic mount code and specifically with the
> namespace semaphore held. If there's ever any network filesystem that e.g.,
> calls to a hung server it will lockup the whole system.So I'm opposed to
> calling into the filesystem here at all. It's also ugly because this is really
> a vfs level change. The only involvement should be whether the filesystem type
> can actually support this ideally.

That's a very interesting point about holding a semaphore. Thanks!

> 
> I think we should handle this within FUSE. So we allow the creation of idmapped
> mounts just based on FS_ALLOW_IDMAP. And if the server doesn't support the
> FUSE_OWNER_UID_GID_EXT then we simply refuse all creation requests originating
> from an idmapped mount. Either we return EOPNOSUPP or we return EOVERFLOW to
> indicate that we can't represent the owner correctly because the server is
> missing the required extension.

Ok, that's effectively the same approach that we already have in cephfs:
https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/41bccc98fb7931d63d03f326a746ac4d429c1dd3/fs/ceph/mds_client.c#L3059

I personally comfortable with this too.

It's interesting to hear what Miklos thinks about it.

Kind regards,
Alex

> 
> diff --git a/fs/fuse/dir.c b/fs/fuse/dir.c
> index 3f37ba6a7a10..0726da21150a 100644
> --- a/fs/fuse/dir.c
> +++ b/fs/fuse/dir.c
> @@ -606,8 +606,16 @@ static int get_create_ext(struct mnt_idmap *idmap,
>                 err = get_security_context(dentry, mode, &ext);
>         if (!err && fc->create_supp_group)
>                 err = get_create_supp_group(dir, &ext);
> -       if (!err && fc->owner_uid_gid_ext)
> -               err = get_owner_uid_gid(idmap, fc, &ext);
> +       if (!err) {
> +               /*
> +                * If the server doesn't support FUSE_OWNER_UID_GID_EXT and
> +                * this is a creation request from an idmapped mount refuse it.
> +                */
> +               if (fc->owner_uid_gid_ext)
> +                       err = get_owner_uid_gid(idmap, fc, &ext);
> +               else if (idmap != &nop_mnt_idmap)
> +                       err = -EOPNOTSUPP;
> +       }
> 
>         if (!err && ext.size) {
>                 WARN_ON(args->in_numargs >= ARRAY_SIZE(args->in_args));


-- 
Alexander Mikhalitsyn <aleksandr.mikhalitsyn@canonical.com>

      parent reply	other threads:[~2024-01-29 16:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-08 12:08 [PATCH v1 0/9] fuse: basic support for idmapped mounts Alexander Mikhalitsyn
2024-01-08 12:08 ` [PATCH v1 1/9] fs/namespace: introduce fs_type->allow_idmap hook Alexander Mikhalitsyn
2024-01-08 12:08 ` [PATCH v1 2/9] fs/fuse: add FUSE_OWNER_UID_GID_EXT extension Alexander Mikhalitsyn
2024-03-05 14:38   ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-07-18 19:12     ` Aleksandr Mikhalitsyn
2024-08-29  8:24       ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-08-29 12:08         ` Christian Brauner
2024-08-29 12:17           ` Aleksandr Mikhalitsyn
2024-08-29 12:21             ` Aleksandr Mikhalitsyn
2024-08-29 12:29           ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-08-29 14:39             ` Aleksandr Mikhalitsyn
2024-08-29 15:04               ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-08-29 17:40                 ` Aleksandr Mikhalitsyn
2024-08-29 18:58                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-08-30 10:57                     ` Christian Brauner
2024-08-30 13:49                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-09-03 15:22                         ` Aleksandr Mikhalitsyn
2024-01-08 12:08 ` [PATCH v1 3/9] fs/fuse: support idmap for mkdir/mknod/symlink/create Alexander Mikhalitsyn
2024-01-08 12:08 ` [PATCH v1 4/9] fs/fuse: support idmapped getattr inode op Alexander Mikhalitsyn
2024-01-20 15:21   ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-29 15:42     ` Alexander Mikhalitsyn
2024-01-08 12:08 ` [PATCH v1 5/9] fs/fuse: support idmapped ->permission " Alexander Mikhalitsyn
2024-01-08 12:08 ` [PATCH v1 6/9] fs/fuse: support idmapped ->setattr op Alexander Mikhalitsyn
2024-01-20 15:23   ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-29 15:48     ` Alexander Mikhalitsyn
2024-01-30  9:52       ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-08 12:08 ` [PATCH v1 7/9] fs/fuse: drop idmap argument from __fuse_get_acl Alexander Mikhalitsyn
2024-01-20 15:24   ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-29 15:55     ` Alexander Mikhalitsyn
2024-01-08 12:08 ` [PATCH v1 8/9] fs/fuse: support idmapped ->set_acl Alexander Mikhalitsyn
2024-01-08 12:08 ` [PATCH v1 9/9] fs/fuse: allow idmapped mounts Alexander Mikhalitsyn
2024-01-21 17:50 ` [PATCH v1 0/9] fuse: basic support for " Christian Brauner
2024-01-22 21:13   ` Seth Forshee
2024-01-23 15:45     ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-29 16:52   ` Alexander Mikhalitsyn [this message]

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