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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/34] bdev: open block device as files
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2024 07:43:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240202064324.GA4350@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240201-rational-wurfgeschosse-73ca66259263@brauner>

On Thu, Feb 01, 2024 at 06:08:29PM +0100, Christian Brauner wrote:
> > > +	/*
> > > +	 * O_EXCL is one of those flags that the VFS clears once it's done with
> > > +	 * the operation. So don't raise it here either.
> > > +	 */
> > > +	if (mode & BLK_OPEN_NDELAY)
> > > +		flags |= O_NDELAY;
> > 
> > O_EXCL isn't dealt with in this helper at all.
> 
> Yeah, on purpose was my point bc we can just rely on @holder and passing
> _EXCL without holder is invalid. But I could add it.

Ok.  I found it weird to have the comment next to BLK_OPEN_NDELAY
as it looked like it sneaked through.  Especially as BLK_OPEN_EXCL
has literally nothing to do with O_EXCL at all as the latter is a
namespace operation flag.  So even if the comment was intentional
I think we're probably better off without it.

> Yes, I had considered that and it would work but there's the issue that
> we need to figure out how to handle BLK_OPEN_RESTRICT_WRITES. It has no
> corresponding O_* flag that would let us indicate this.

Oh, indeed.

>
> So I had
> considered:
> 
> 1/ Expose bdev_file_open_excl() so callers don't need to pass any
>    specific flags. Nearly all filesystems would effectively use this
>    helper as sb_open_mode() adds it implicitly. That would have the
>    side-effect of introducing another open helper ofc; possibly two if
>    we take _by_dev() and _by_path() into account.
> 
> 2/ Abuse an O_* flag to mean BLK_OPEN_RESTRICT_WRITES. For example,
>    O_TRUNC or O_NOCTTY which is pretty yucky.
> 
> 3/ Introduce an internal O_* flag which is also ugly. Vomitorious and my
>    co-maintainers would likely chop off my hands so I can't go near a
>    computer again.
> 
> 3/ Make O_EXCL when passed together with bdev_file_open_by_*() always
>    imply BLK_OPEN_RESTRICT_WRITES.
> 
> The 3/ option would probably be the cleanest one and I think that all
> filesystems now pass at least a holder and holder ops so this _should_
> work.

2 and 3 sound pretty horrible.  3 would work and look clean for the
block side, but O_ flags are mess so I wouldn't go there.

Maybe  variant of 1 that allows for a non-exclusive open and clearly
marks that?

Or just leave it as-is for now and look into that later.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-02  6:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 146+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-23 13:26 [PATCH v2 00/34] Open block devices as files Christian Brauner
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 01/34] bdev: open block device " Christian Brauner
2024-01-29 16:02   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-01 17:08     ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-02  6:43       ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2024-02-02 11:46         ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-09 11:39       ` Christian Brauner
2024-03-13  2:32   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-14 11:10     ` Christian Brauner
2024-03-14 14:47       ` Christian Brauner
2024-03-14 16:45         ` Christian Brauner
2024-03-14 16:58         ` Jan Kara
2024-03-15 13:23           ` [PATCH] fs,block: get holder during claim Christian Brauner
2024-03-15 14:28             ` Jan Kara
2024-03-19 16:24               ` remove holder ops Christian Brauner
2024-03-19 17:03                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-19 23:13                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-17 20:53             ` [PATCH] fs,block: get holder during claim Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-18  8:33               ` Christian Brauner
2024-03-18  9:10             ` Yi Zhang
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 02/34] block/ioctl: port blkdev_bszset() to file Christian Brauner
2024-01-29 16:14   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-01-31 18:10   ` Jan Kara
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 03/34] block/genhd: port disk_scan_partitions() " Christian Brauner
2024-01-29 16:14   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-01-31 18:13   ` Jan Kara
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 04/34] md: port block device access " Christian Brauner
2024-01-29 16:14   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-01-31 18:15   ` Jan Kara
2024-04-15  9:26   ` Ming Lei
2024-04-15 12:35     ` Christian Brauner
2024-04-15 13:56       ` Mike Snitzer
2024-04-15 14:35       ` Ming Lei
2024-04-15 14:53         ` Christian Brauner
2024-04-15 15:11           ` Ming Lei
2024-04-15 15:53             ` Mike Snitzer
2024-04-15 16:22             ` Jan Kara
2024-04-16  0:27               ` Ming Lei
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 05/34] swap: port block device usage " Christian Brauner
2024-01-29 16:15   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-01-31 18:16   ` Jan Kara
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 06/34] power: port block device access " Christian Brauner
2024-01-29 16:15   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-01-31 18:17   ` Jan Kara
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 07/34] xfs: port block device access to files Christian Brauner
2024-01-29 16:17   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-01 14:33     ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-31 18:19   ` Jan Kara
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 08/34] drbd: port block device access to file Christian Brauner
2024-01-31 18:22   ` Jan Kara
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 09/34] pktcdvd: " Christian Brauner
2024-01-31 18:26   ` Jan Kara
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 10/34] rnbd: " Christian Brauner
2024-01-31 18:28   ` Jan Kara
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 11/34] xen: " Christian Brauner
2024-01-31 18:31   ` Jan Kara
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 12/34] zram: " Christian Brauner
2024-01-31 18:32   ` Jan Kara
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 13/34] bcache: port block device access to files Christian Brauner
2024-02-01  9:45   ` Jan Kara
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 14/34] block2mtd: port " Christian Brauner
2024-02-01  9:47   ` Jan Kara
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 15/34] nvme: port block device access to file Christian Brauner
2024-02-01  9:48   ` Jan Kara
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 16/34] s390: " Christian Brauner
2024-02-01 10:11   ` Jan Kara
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 17/34] target: " Christian Brauner
2024-02-01 10:12   ` Jan Kara
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 18/34] bcachefs: " Christian Brauner
2024-02-01 10:13   ` Jan Kara
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 19/34] btrfs: port " Christian Brauner
2024-02-01 10:16   ` Jan Kara
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 20/34] erofs: " Christian Brauner
2024-02-01 10:16   ` Jan Kara
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 21/34] ext4: port block " Christian Brauner
2024-02-01 10:18   ` Jan Kara
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 22/34] f2fs: port block device access to files Christian Brauner
2024-02-01 10:19   ` Jan Kara
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 23/34] jfs: port block device access to file Christian Brauner
2024-02-01 10:19   ` Jan Kara
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 24/34] nfs: port block device access to files Christian Brauner
2024-02-01 10:22   ` Jan Kara
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 25/34] ocfs2: port block device access to file Christian Brauner
2024-02-01 10:22   ` Jan Kara
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 26/34] reiserfs: " Christian Brauner
2024-02-01 10:24   ` Jan Kara
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 27/34] bdev: remove bdev_open_by_path() Christian Brauner
2024-01-29 16:17   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-01 10:24   ` Jan Kara
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 28/34] bdev: make bdev_release() private to block layer Christian Brauner
2024-01-29 16:19   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-01 10:26   ` Jan Kara
2024-02-01 14:48     ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 29/34] bdev: make struct bdev_handle private to the " Christian Brauner
2024-01-29 16:22   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-01 14:50     ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-01 10:54   ` Jan Kara
2024-02-01 15:07     ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-01 17:42       ` Jan Kara
2024-02-01 11:23   ` Jan Kara
2024-02-01 14:52     ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 30/34] bdev: remove bdev pointer from struct bdev_handle Christian Brauner
2024-01-29 16:22   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-01 10:57   ` Jan Kara
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 31/34] block: use file->f_op to indicate restricted writes Christian Brauner
2024-01-29 16:49   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-01-29 17:09     ` [PATCH v2 31/34] block: use file->f_op to indicate restricted writes^[ Christian Brauner
2024-01-30  8:32       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-01-30  9:11         ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-01 11:08   ` [PATCH v2 31/34] block: use file->f_op to indicate restricted writes Jan Kara
2024-02-01 16:16     ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-01 17:36       ` Jan Kara
2024-02-02 11:45         ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-02 11:51           ` Jan Kara
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 32/34] block: remove bdev_handle completely Christian Brauner
2024-01-29 16:50   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-01 11:20   ` Jan Kara
2024-02-01 16:18     ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 33/34] block: expose bdev_file_inode() Christian Brauner
2024-02-01 10:09   ` Jan Kara
2024-01-23 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 34/34] ext4: rely on sb->f_bdev only Christian Brauner
2024-02-01 11:34   ` Jan Kara
2024-02-01 13:40     ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-29  6:17 ` [PATCH v2 00/34] Open block devices as files Christoph Hellwig
2024-01-29 10:17   ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-29 10:56 ` [PATCH RFC 0/2] fs & block: remove bd_inode Christian Brauner
2024-01-29 10:56   ` [PATCH RFC 1/2] fs & block: remove bdev->bd_inode Christian Brauner
2024-02-20 11:57     ` Yu Kuai
2024-02-21  7:36       ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-29 10:56   ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] fs,drivers: remove bdev_inode() usage outside of block layer and drivers Christian Brauner
2024-01-29 14:37     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-01-29 15:29       ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-29 15:36         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-19 13:34           ` Yu Kuai
2024-02-19 13:42           ` Yu Kuai
2024-02-05 11:55 ` [PATCH v2 00/34] Open block devices as files Christian Brauner
2024-02-05 14:19   ` Jan Kara
2024-02-06 13:39     ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-06 13:58       ` Jan Kara
2024-02-06 16:10         ` Christian Brauner
2024-03-21 22:17 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-22  3:38   ` Kent Overstreet
2024-03-22 13:56     ` Christian Brauner
2024-03-22 12:31   ` Christian Brauner
2024-03-22 12:40     ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-22 13:53       ` Christian Brauner

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