From: Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Seth Forshee <sforshee@kernel.org>,
Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.pizza>,
Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>, Al Viro <viro@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] pidfd: add pidfdfs
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2024 12:26:48 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240227192648.GA2621994@dev-arch.thelio-3990X> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240224-altgedienten-meerwasser-1fb9de8f4050@brauner>
Hi Christian,
On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 08:15:53PM +0100, Christian Brauner wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 10:48:11AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > On Fri, 23 Feb 2024 at 21:52, Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > This is selinux. So I think this is a misunderstanding. This isn't
> > > something we can fix in the kernel.
> >
> > Sure it is. SELinux just goes by what the kernel tells it anyway.
> >
> > Presumably this is purely about the fact that the inode in question
> > *used* to be that magical 'anon_inode_inode' that is shared when you
> > don't want or need a separate inode allocation. I assume it doesn't
> > even look at that, it just looks at the 'anon_inode_fs_type' thing (or
> > maybe at the anon_inode_mnt->mnt_sb that is created by kern_mount in
> > anon_inode_init?)
> >
> > IOW, isn't the *only* difference that selinux can actually see just
> > the inode allocation? It used to be that
> >
> > inode = anon_inode_getfile();
> >
> > now it is
> >
> > inode = new_inode_pseudo(pidfdfs_sb);
> >
> > and instead of sharing one single inode (like anon_inode_getfile()
> > does unless you ask for separate inodes), it now shares the dentry
> > instead (for the same pid).
> >
> > Would selinux be happy if the inode allocation just used the
> > anon_inode superblock instead of pidfdfs_sb?
>
> No, unfortunately not. The core issue is that anon_inode_getfile() isn't
> subject to any LSM hooks which is what pidfds used. But dentry_open() is
> via security_file_open(). LSMs wanted to have a say in pidfd mediation
> which is now possible. So the switch to dentry_open() is what is causing
> the issue.
>
> But here's a straightforward fix appended. We let pidfs.c use that fix
> as and then we introduce a new LSM hook for pidfds that allows mediation
> of pidfds and selinux can implement it when they're ready. This is
> regression free and future proof. I actually tested this already today.
>
> How does that sounds?
I see a patch similar to this change in your vfs.pidfs branch as
commit 47a1fbce74c3 ("pidfs: convert to path_from_stashed() helper"),
which also appears to be in next-20240227. However, I still seem to be
having similar issues (although I cannot reproduce them every single
boot like I used to). I do see some SELinux denials for pidfs, although
it seems like it is only write that is being denied, rather than open,
read, and write?
# uname -r
6.8.0-rc6-next-20240227
# systemctl --failed --no-legend --plain
fwupd-refresh.service loaded failed failed Refresh fwupd metadata and update motd
mcelog.service loaded failed failed Machine Check Exception Logging Daemon
polkit.service loaded failed failed Authorization Manager
# journalctl -b 0 -g denied -t audit | head -3
Feb 27 10:49:20 qemu audit[1]: AVC avc: denied { write } for pid=1 comm="systemd" path="pidfd:[1547]" dev="pidfs" ino=1547 scontext=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 tclass=file permissive=0
Feb 27 10:49:21 qemu audit[1]: AVC avc: denied { write } for pid=1 comm="systemd" path="pidfd:[1564]" dev="pidfs" ino=1564 scontext=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 tclass=file permissive=0
Feb 27 10:50:50 qemu audit[1]: AVC avc: denied { write } for pid=1 comm="systemd" path="pidfd:[1547]" dev="pidfs" ino=1547 scontext=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 tclass=file permissive=0
Cheers,
Nathan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-02-27 19:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-02-13 16:45 [PATCH 0/2] Move pidfd to tiny pseudo fs Christian Brauner
2024-02-13 16:45 ` [PATCH 1/2] pidfd: move struct pidfd_fops Christian Brauner
2024-02-13 16:45 ` [PATCH 2/2] pidfd: add pidfdfs Christian Brauner
2024-02-13 17:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-02-14 14:40 ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-14 18:27 ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-14 18:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-02-15 16:11 ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-16 11:50 ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-16 16:41 ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-17 13:59 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-02-17 17:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-02-17 17:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-02-18 11:15 ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-18 11:33 ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-18 17:54 ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-18 18:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-02-18 18:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-02-19 18:05 ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-19 18:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-02-19 21:18 ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-19 23:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-02-18 14:27 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-02-18 9:30 ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-22 19:03 ` Nathan Chancellor
2024-02-23 10:18 ` Heiko Carstens
2024-02-23 11:56 ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-23 11:55 ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-23 12:57 ` Heiko Carstens
2024-02-23 13:27 ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-23 13:35 ` Heiko Carstens
2024-02-23 13:41 ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-23 21:26 ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-23 21:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-02-24 5:52 ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-24 6:05 ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-24 18:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-02-24 19:15 ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-24 19:19 ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-24 19:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-02-27 19:26 ` Nathan Chancellor [this message]
2024-02-27 22:13 ` Christian Brauner
2024-03-12 10:35 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-03-12 14:09 ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-15 11:10 ` Jiri Slaby
2024-05-15 16:39 ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-16 5:28 ` Jiri Slaby
2024-05-17 7:09 ` Jiri Slaby
2024-05-17 7:54 ` Jiri Slaby
2024-05-17 20:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-20 8:23 ` Jiri Slaby
2024-05-20 19:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-20 19:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-21 6:07 ` Jiri Slaby
2024-05-21 6:13 ` Jiri Slaby
2024-05-21 12:33 ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-21 12:40 ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-21 15:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-25 11:57 ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-21 12:16 ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-13 17:02 ` [PATCH 0/2] Move pidfd to tiny pseudo fs Christian Brauner
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