From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Yu Kuai <yukuai1@huaweicloud.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
brauner@kernel.org, axboe@kernel.dk,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
yi.zhang@huawei.com, yangerkun@huawei.com,
"yukuai (C)" <yukuai3@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v4 linux-next 19/19] fs & block: remove bdev->bd_inode
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 16:16:01 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240322161601.GQ538574@ZenIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240322154347.GO538574@ZenIV>
On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 03:43:47PM +0000, Al Viro wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 02:52:16PM +0800, Yu Kuai wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > 在 2024/03/22 14:39, Al Viro 写道:
> > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 06:37:18AM +0000, Al Viro wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 08:15:06PM +0800, Yu Kuai wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > blkdev_iomap_begin() etc. may be an arbitrary filesystem block device
> > > > > > inode. But why can't you use I_BDEV(inode->i_mapping->host) to get to the
> > > > > > block device instead of your file_bdev(inode->i_private)? I don't see any
> > > > > > advantage in stashing away that special bdev_file into inode->i_private but
> > > > > > perhaps I'm missing something...
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Because we're goning to remove the 'block_device' from iomap and
> > > > > buffer_head, and replace it with a 'bdev_file'.
> > > >
> > > > What of that? file_inode(file)->f_mapping->host will give you bdevfs inode
> > > > just fine...
> > >
> > > file->f_mapping->host, obviously - sorry.
> > > .
> >
> > Yes, we already get bdev_inode this way, and use it in
> > blkdev_iomap_begin() and blkdev_get_block(), the problem is that if we
> > want to let iomap and buffer_head to use bdev_file for raw block fops as
> > well, we need a 'bdev_file' somehow.
>
> Explain, please. Why would anything care whether the file is bdevfs
> one or coming from devtmpfs/xfs/ext2/whatnot?
Yecchhh... I see one possible reason, unfortunately, but I really doubt
that your approach is workable. iomap is not a problem; nothing in
there will persist past the destruction of struct file you've used;
buffer_head, OTOH, is a problem. They are, by their nature,
shared between various openers and we can't really withdraw them.
Why do we want ->b_bdev replaced with struct file * in the first place?
AFAICS, your patch tries to make it unique per opened bdev; that
makes the lifetime rules really convoluted, but that aside, what's
in that struct file that is not in struct block_device?
I don't see any point trying to shove that down into buffer_head, or,
Cthulhu forbid, bio. Details, please...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-03-22 16:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-02-22 12:45 [RFC v4 linux-next 00/19] fs & block: remove bdev->bd_inode Yu Kuai
2024-02-22 12:45 ` [RFC v4 linux-next 01/19] block: move two helpers into bdev.c Yu Kuai
2024-03-15 14:31 ` Jan Kara
2024-03-17 21:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-22 12:45 ` [RFC v4 linux-next 02/19] block: remove sync_blockdev_nowait() Yu Kuai
2024-03-15 14:34 ` Jan Kara
2024-03-17 21:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-22 12:45 ` [RFC v4 linux-next 03/19] block: remove sync_blockdev_range() Yu Kuai
2024-03-15 14:37 ` Jan Kara
2024-03-17 21:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-22 12:45 ` [RFC v4 linux-next 04/19] block: prevent direct access of bd_inode Yu Kuai
2024-03-15 14:44 ` Jan Kara
2024-03-17 21:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-22 5:44 ` Al Viro
2024-02-22 12:45 ` [RFC v4 linux-next 05/19] bcachefs: remove dead function bdev_sectors() Yu Kuai
2024-03-15 14:42 ` Jan Kara
2024-03-17 21:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-22 12:45 ` [RFC v4 linux-next 06/19] cramfs: prevent direct access of bd_inode Yu Kuai
2024-03-15 14:44 ` Jan Kara
2024-03-17 21:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-22 12:45 ` [RFC v4 linux-next 07/19] erofs: " Yu Kuai
2024-03-15 14:45 ` Jan Kara
2024-03-17 21:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-18 2:39 ` Gao Xiang
2024-02-22 12:45 ` [RFC v4 linux-next 08/19] nilfs2: " Yu Kuai
2024-03-15 14:49 ` Jan Kara
2024-03-17 21:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-22 12:45 ` [RFC v4 linux-next 09/19] gfs2: " Yu Kuai
2024-03-15 14:54 ` Jan Kara
2024-03-17 21:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-22 12:45 ` [RFC v4 linux-next 10/19] s390/dasd: use bdev api in dasd_format() Yu Kuai
2024-03-15 14:55 ` Jan Kara
2024-03-17 21:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-22 12:45 ` [RFC v4 linux-next 11/19] btrfs: prevent direct access of bd_inode Yu Kuai
2024-03-15 15:09 ` Jan Kara
2024-03-17 21:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-22 12:45 ` [RFC v4 linux-next 12/19] ext4: remove block_device_ejected() Yu Kuai
2024-02-22 12:45 ` [RFC v4 linux-next 13/19] ext4: prevent direct access of bd_inode Yu Kuai
2024-03-15 14:58 ` Jan Kara
2024-03-17 21:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-22 12:45 ` [RFC v4 linux-next 14/19] jbd2: " Yu Kuai
2024-03-15 15:06 ` Jan Kara
2024-03-17 21:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-18 1:10 ` Yu Kuai
2024-02-22 12:45 ` [RFC v4 linux-next 15/19] bcache: " Yu Kuai
2024-03-15 15:11 ` Jan Kara
2024-03-17 21:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-22 12:45 ` [RFC v4 linux-next 16/19] block2mtd: " Yu Kuai
2024-03-15 15:12 ` Jan Kara
2024-03-17 21:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-22 12:45 ` [RFC v4 linux-next 17/19] dm-vdo: " Yu Kuai
2024-02-28 13:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-18 9:11 ` Jan Kara
2024-03-18 9:19 ` Jan Kara
2024-03-18 13:38 ` Yu Kuai
2024-03-19 2:00 ` Matthew Sakai
2024-02-22 12:45 ` [RFC v4 linux-next 18/19] scsi: factor out a helper bdev_read_folio() from scsi_bios_ptable() Yu Kuai
2024-03-17 21:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-18 1:12 ` Yu Kuai
2024-03-18 9:22 ` Jan Kara
2024-02-22 12:45 ` [RFC v4 linux-next 19/19] fs & block: remove bdev->bd_inode Yu Kuai
2024-03-17 21:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-18 1:26 ` Yu Kuai
2024-03-18 1:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-18 1:51 ` Yu Kuai
2024-03-18 7:19 ` Yu Kuai
2024-03-18 10:07 ` Christian Brauner
2024-03-18 10:29 ` Christian Brauner
2024-03-18 10:46 ` Christian Brauner
2024-03-18 11:57 ` Yu Kuai
2024-03-18 23:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-18 23:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-19 8:26 ` Yu Kuai
2024-03-21 11:27 ` Jan Kara
2024-03-21 12:15 ` Yu Kuai
2024-03-22 6:37 ` Al Viro
2024-03-22 6:39 ` Al Viro
2024-03-22 6:52 ` Yu Kuai
2024-03-22 12:57 ` Jan Kara
2024-03-22 13:57 ` Christian Brauner
2024-03-22 15:43 ` Al Viro
2024-03-22 16:16 ` Al Viro [this message]
2024-03-22 6:33 ` Al Viro
2024-03-22 7:09 ` Yu Kuai
2024-03-22 16:01 ` Al Viro
2024-03-22 13:10 ` Jan Kara
2024-03-22 14:57 ` Al Viro
2024-03-25 1:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-28 13:42 ` [RFC v4 linux-next 00/19] " Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-15 12:08 ` Yu Kuai
2024-03-15 13:54 ` Christian Brauner
2024-03-16 2:49 ` Yu Kuai
2024-03-18 9:39 ` Christian Brauner
2024-03-19 1:18 ` Yu Kuai
2024-03-19 1:43 ` Yu Kuai
2024-03-19 2:13 ` Matthew Sakai
2024-03-19 2:27 ` Yu Kuai
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