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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	axboe@kernel.dk, kbusch@kernel.org, sagi@grimberg.me,
	jejb@linux.ibm.com, martin.petersen@oracle.com,
	djwong@kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, brauner@kernel.org,
	dchinner@redhat.com, jack@suse.cz, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, tytso@mit.edu, jbongio@google.com,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, ojaswin@linux.ibm.com,
	linux-aio@kvack.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
	io-uring@vger.kernel.org, nilay@linux.ibm.com,
	ritesh.list@gmail.com, willy@infradead.org,
	Prasad Singamsetty <prasad.singamsetty@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 2/9] fs: Initial atomic write support
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 07:41:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240606054143.GB9123@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fbb835ff-f1ae-4b59-8cb3-22a11449d781@oracle.com>

On Wed, Jun 05, 2024 at 11:48:12AM +0100, John Garry wrote:
> I have no strong attachment to that name (atomic).
>
> For both SCSI and NVMe, it's an "atomic" feature and I was basing the 
> naming on that.
>
> We could have RWF_NOTEARS or RWF_UNTEARABLE_WRITE or RWF_UNTEARABLE or 
> RWF_UNTORN or similar. Any preference?

No particular preference between any of the option including atomic.
Just mumbling out aloud my thoughts :)

> For io_uring/rw.c, we have io_write() -> io_rw_init_file(..., WRITE), and 
> then later we set IOCB_WRITE, so would be neat to use there. But then 
> do_iter_readv_writev() does not set IOCB_WRITE - I can't imagine that 
> setting IOCB_WRITE would do any harm there. I see a similar change in 
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/167391048988.2311931.1567396746365286847.stgit@warthog.procyon.org.uk/
>
> AFAICS, setting IOCB_WRITE is quite inconsistent. From browsing through 
> fsdevel on lore, there was some history in trying to use IOCB_WRITE always 
> instead of iov_iter direction. Any idea what happened to that?
>
> I'm just getting the feeling that setting IOCB_WRITE in 
> kiocb_set_rw_flags() is a small part - and maybe counter productive - of a 
> larger job of fixing IOCB_WRITE usage.

Someone (IIRC Dave H.) want to move it into the iov_iter a while ago.
I think that is a bad idea - the iov_iter is a data container except
for the shoehorned in read/write information doesn't describe the
operation at all.  So using the flag in the iocb seems like the better
architecture.  But I can understand that you might want to stay out
of all of this, so let's not touch IOCB_WRITE here.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-06  5:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-02 14:09 [PATCH v7 0/9] block atomic writes John Garry
2024-06-02 14:09 ` [PATCH v7 1/9] block: Pass blk_queue_get_max_sectors() a request pointer John Garry
2024-06-02 14:09 ` [PATCH v7 2/9] fs: Initial atomic write support John Garry
2024-06-05  8:30   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-05 10:48     ` John Garry
2024-06-06  5:41       ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2024-06-06  6:38         ` John Garry
2024-06-02 14:09 ` [PATCH v7 3/9] fs: Add initial atomic write support info to statx John Garry
2024-06-02 14:09 ` [PATCH v7 4/9] block: Add core atomic write support John Garry
2024-06-03  9:26   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-06-03 11:38     ` John Garry
2024-06-03 12:31       ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-06-03 13:29         ` John Garry
2024-06-05  8:32           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-05 11:21             ` John Garry
2024-06-06  5:44               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-05  8:31         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-02 14:09 ` [PATCH v7 5/9] block: Add atomic write support for statx John Garry
2024-06-02 14:09 ` [PATCH v7 6/9] block: Add fops atomic write support John Garry
2024-06-02 14:09 ` [PATCH v7 7/9] scsi: sd: Atomic " John Garry
2024-06-02 14:09 ` [PATCH v7 8/9] scsi: scsi_debug: " John Garry
2024-06-02 14:09 ` [PATCH v7 9/9] nvme: " John Garry
2024-06-07  6:16 ` [PATCH v7 0/9] block atomic writes John Garry

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