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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
To: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	Anna Schumaker <anna@kernel.org>,
	Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>,
	NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [PATCH v13 19/19] nfs: add FAQ section to Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2024 14:14:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240823181423.20458-20-snitzer@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240823181423.20458-1-snitzer@kernel.org>

From: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com>

Add a FAQ section to give answers to questions that have been raised
during review of the localio feature.

Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com>
Co-developed-by: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
Signed-off-by: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
---
 Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst | 77 +++++++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 77 insertions(+)

diff --git a/Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst b/Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst
index 8cceb3db386a..4b6d63246479 100644
--- a/Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst
+++ b/Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst
@@ -61,6 +61,83 @@ fio for 20 secs with directio, qd of 8, 1 libaio thread:
   128K read:  IOPS=24.4k, BW=3050MiB/s (3198MB/s)(59.6GiB/20001msec)
   128K write: IOPS=11.4k, BW=1430MiB/s (1500MB/s)(27.9GiB/20001msec)
 
+FAQ
+===
+
+1. What are the use cases for LOCALIO?
+
+   a. Workloads where the NFS client and server are on the same host
+      realize improved IO performance. In particular, it is common when
+      running containerised workloads for jobs to find themselves
+      running on the same host as the knfsd server being used for
+      storage.
+
+2. What are the requirements for LOCALIO?
+
+   a. Bypass use of the network RPC protocol as much as possible. This
+      includes bypassing XDR and RPC for open, read, write and commit
+      operations.
+   b. Allow client and server to autonomously discover if they are
+      running local to each other without making any assumptions about
+      the local network topology.
+   c. Support the use of containers by being compatible with relevant
+      namespaces (e.g. network, user, mount).
+   d. Support all versions of NFS. NFSv3 is of particular importance
+      because it has wide enterprise usage and pNFS flexfiles makes use
+      of it for the data path.
+
+3. Why doesn’t LOCALIO just compare IP addresses or hostnames when
+   deciding if the NFS client and server are co-located on the same
+   host?
+
+   Since one of the main use cases is containerised workloads, we cannot
+   assume that IP addresses will be shared between the client and
+   server. This sets up a requirement for a handshake protocol that
+   needs to go over the same connection as the NFS traffic in order to
+   identify that the client and the server really are running on the
+   same host. The handshake uses a secret that is sent over the wire,
+   and can be verified by both parties by comparing with a value stored
+   in shared kernel memory if they are truly co-located.
+
+4. Does LOCALIO improve pNFS flexfiles?
+
+   Yes, LOCALIO complements pNFS flexfiles by allowing it to take
+   advantage of NFS client and server locality.  Policy that initiates
+   client IO as closely to the server where the data is stored naturally
+   benefits from the data path optimization LOCALIO provides.
+
+5. Why not develop a new pNFS layout to enable LOCALIO?
+
+   A new pNFS layout could be developed, but doing so would put the
+   onus on the server to somehow discover that the client is co-located
+   when deciding to hand out the layout.
+   There is value in a simpler approach (as provided by LOCALIO) that
+   allows the NFS client to negotiate and leverage locality without
+   requiring more elaborate modeling and discovery of such locality in a
+   more centralized manner.
+
+6. Why is having the client perform a server-side file OPEN, without
+   using RPC, beneficial?  Is the benefit pNFS specific?
+
+   Avoiding the use of XDR and RPC for file opens is beneficial to
+   performance regardless of whether pNFS is used. However adding a
+   requirement to go over the wire to do an open and/or close ends up
+   negating any benefit of avoiding the wire for doing the I/O itself
+   when we’re dealing with small files. There is no benefit to replacing
+   the READ or WRITE with a new open and/or close operation that still
+   needs to go over the wire.
+
+7. Why is LOCALIO only supported with UNIX Authentication (AUTH_UNIX)?
+
+   Strong authentication is usually tied to the connection itself. It
+   works by establishing a context that is cached by the server, and
+   that acts as the key for discovering the authorisation token, which
+   can then be passed to rpc.mountd to complete the authentication
+   process. On the other hand, in the case of AUTH_UNIX, the credential
+   that was passed over the wire is used directly as the key in the
+   upcall to rpc.mountd. This simplifies the authentication process, and
+   so makes AUTH_UNIX easier to support.
+
 RPC
 ===
 
-- 
2.44.0


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-08-23 18:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-23 18:13 [PATCH v13 00/19] nfs/nfsd: add support for localio Mike Snitzer
2024-08-23 18:13 ` [PATCH v13 01/19] nfs_common: factor out nfs_errtbl and nfs_stat_to_errno Mike Snitzer
2024-08-23 18:14 ` [PATCH v13 02/19] nfs_common: factor out nfs4_errtbl and nfs4_stat_to_errno Mike Snitzer
2024-08-23 18:14 ` [PATCH v13 03/19] nfs: factor out {encode,decode}_opaque_fixed to nfs_xdr.h Mike Snitzer
2024-08-23 18:14 ` [PATCH v13 04/19] nfsd: factor out __fh_verify to allow NULL rqstp to be passed Mike Snitzer
2024-08-25 15:32   ` Chuck Lever
2024-08-25 23:44     ` NeilBrown
2024-08-26 14:51       ` Chuck Lever
2024-08-28 17:01       ` Chuck Lever
2024-08-29  0:30         ` Mike Snitzer
2024-08-29  0:32           ` Mike Snitzer
2024-08-27 18:58     ` Mike Snitzer
2024-08-27 19:26       ` Chuck Lever
2024-08-27 19:35         ` Mike Snitzer
2024-08-23 18:14 ` [PATCH v13 05/19] nfsd: add nfsd_file_acquire_local() Mike Snitzer
2024-08-25 15:18   ` Chuck Lever
2024-08-23 18:14 ` [PATCH v13 06/19] SUNRPC: remove call_allocate() BUG_ONs Mike Snitzer
2024-08-23 18:14 ` [PATCH v13 07/19] SUNRPC: add rpcauth_map_clnt_to_svc_cred_local Mike Snitzer
2024-08-25 15:17   ` Chuck Lever
2024-08-27 16:08     ` Mike Snitzer
2024-08-23 18:14 ` [PATCH v13 08/19] SUNRPC: replace program list with program array Mike Snitzer
2024-08-25 15:14   ` Chuck Lever
2024-08-23 18:14 ` [PATCH v13 09/19] nfs_common: add NFS LOCALIO auxiliary protocol enablement Mike Snitzer
2024-08-26  0:32   ` NeilBrown
2024-08-27 17:45     ` Mike Snitzer
2024-08-27 21:25       ` NeilBrown
2024-08-23 18:14 ` [PATCH v13 10/19] nfsd: add localio support Mike Snitzer
2024-08-25 15:13   ` Chuck Lever
2024-08-26  0:53   ` NeilBrown
2024-08-26 20:03     ` Mike Snitzer
2024-08-23 18:14 ` [PATCH v13 11/19] nfsd: implement server support for NFS_LOCALIO_PROGRAM Mike Snitzer
2024-08-25 15:09   ` Chuck Lever
2024-08-23 18:14 ` [PATCH v13 12/19] nfs: pass struct nfsd_file to nfs_init_pgio and nfs_init_commit Mike Snitzer
2024-08-23 18:14 ` [PATCH v13 13/19] nfs: add localio support Mike Snitzer
2024-08-26  1:21   ` NeilBrown
2024-08-23 18:14 ` [PATCH v13 14/19] nfs: enable localio for non-pNFS IO Mike Snitzer
2024-08-23 18:14 ` [PATCH v13 15/19] pnfs/flexfiles: enable localio support Mike Snitzer
2024-08-26  1:39   ` NeilBrown
2024-08-26 15:38     ` Mike Snitzer
2024-08-27 21:27       ` NeilBrown
2024-08-23 18:14 ` [PATCH v13 16/19] nfs/localio: use dedicated workqueues for filesystem read and write Mike Snitzer
2024-08-23 18:14 ` [PATCH v13 17/19] nfs: implement client support for NFS_LOCALIO_PROGRAM Mike Snitzer
2024-08-23 18:14 ` [PATCH v13 18/19] nfs: add Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst Mike Snitzer
2024-08-23 18:14 ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2024-08-26  1:56   ` [PATCH v13 19/19] nfs: add FAQ section to Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst NeilBrown
2024-08-26 14:16     ` Chuck Lever III
2024-08-26 14:50       ` Trond Myklebust
2024-08-27 21:49         ` NeilBrown
2024-08-27 22:24           ` Trond Myklebust
2024-08-27 23:41             ` NeilBrown
2024-08-28  0:08               ` Trond Myklebust
2024-08-28  4:26               ` Mike Snitzer
2024-08-25 15:46 ` [PATCH v13 00/19] nfs/nfsd: add support for localio Chuck Lever
2024-08-27 16:56   ` Mike Snitzer
2024-08-26  1:59 ` NeilBrown

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