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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
To: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	Anna Schumaker <anna@kernel.org>,
	Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>,
	NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [PATCH v15 25/26] nfs: add FAQ section to Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 18:37:45 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240831223755.8569-26-snitzer@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240831223755.8569-1-snitzer@kernel.org>

From: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com>

Add a FAQ section to give answers to questions that have been raised
during review of the localio feature.

Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com>
Co-developed-by: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
Signed-off-by: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
---
 Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst | 86 +++++++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 86 insertions(+)

diff --git a/Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst b/Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst
index 3c9bc370079b..ef3851d48133 100644
--- a/Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst
+++ b/Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst
@@ -64,6 +64,92 @@ fio for 20 secs with directio, qd of 8, 1 libaio thread:
   128K read:  IOPS=24.4k, BW=3050MiB/s (3198MB/s)(59.6GiB/20001msec)
   128K write: IOPS=11.4k, BW=1430MiB/s (1500MB/s)(27.9GiB/20001msec)
 
+FAQ
+===
+
+1. What are the use cases for LOCALIO?
+
+   a. Workloads where the NFS client and server are on the same host
+      realize improved IO performance. In particular, it is common when
+      running containerised workloads for jobs to find themselves
+      running on the same host as the knfsd server being used for
+      storage.
+
+2. What are the requirements for LOCALIO?
+
+   a. Bypass use of the network RPC protocol as much as possible. This
+      includes bypassing XDR and RPC for open, read, write and commit
+      operations.
+   b. Allow client and server to autonomously discover if they are
+      running local to each other without making any assumptions about
+      the local network topology.
+   c. Support the use of containers by being compatible with relevant
+      namespaces (e.g. network, user, mount).
+   d. Support all versions of NFS. NFSv3 is of particular importance
+      because it has wide enterprise usage and pNFS flexfiles makes use
+      of it for the data path.
+
+3. Why doesn’t LOCALIO just compare IP addresses or hostnames when
+   deciding if the NFS client and server are co-located on the same
+   host?
+
+   Since one of the main use cases is containerised workloads, we cannot
+   assume that IP addresses will be shared between the client and
+   server. This sets up a requirement for a handshake protocol that
+   needs to go over the same connection as the NFS traffic in order to
+   identify that the client and the server really are running on the
+   same host. The handshake uses a secret that is sent over the wire,
+   and can be verified by both parties by comparing with a value stored
+   in shared kernel memory if they are truly co-located.
+
+4. Does LOCALIO improve pNFS flexfiles?
+
+   Yes, LOCALIO complements pNFS flexfiles by allowing it to take
+   advantage of NFS client and server locality.  Policy that initiates
+   client IO as closely to the server where the data is stored naturally
+   benefits from the data path optimization LOCALIO provides.
+
+5. Why not develop a new pNFS layout to enable LOCALIO?
+
+   A new pNFS layout could be developed, but doing so would put the
+   onus on the server to somehow discover that the client is co-located
+   when deciding to hand out the layout.
+   There is value in a simpler approach (as provided by LOCALIO) that
+   allows the NFS client to negotiate and leverage locality without
+   requiring more elaborate modeling and discovery of such locality in a
+   more centralized manner.
+
+6. Why is having the client perform a server-side file OPEN, without
+   using RPC, beneficial?  Is the benefit pNFS specific?
+
+   Avoiding the use of XDR and RPC for file opens is beneficial to
+   performance regardless of whether pNFS is used. Especially when
+   dealing with small files its best to avoid going over the wire
+   whenever possible, otherwise it could reduce or even negate the
+   benefits of avoiding the wire for doing the small file I/O itself.
+   Given LOCALIO's requirements the current approach of having the
+   client perform a server-side file open, without using RPC, is ideal.
+   If in the future requirements change then we can adapt accordingly.
+
+7. Why is LOCALIO only supported with UNIX Authentication (AUTH_UNIX)?
+
+   Strong authentication is usually tied to the connection itself. It
+   works by establishing a context that is cached by the server, and
+   that acts as the key for discovering the authorisation token, which
+   can then be passed to rpc.mountd to complete the authentication
+   process. On the other hand, in the case of AUTH_UNIX, the credential
+   that was passed over the wire is used directly as the key in the
+   upcall to rpc.mountd. This simplifies the authentication process, and
+   so makes AUTH_UNIX easier to support.
+
+8. How do export options that translate RPC user IDs behave for LOCALIO
+   operations (eg. root_squash, all_squash)?
+
+   Export options that translate user IDs are managed by nfsd_setuser()
+   which is called by nfsd_setuser_and_check_port() which is called by
+   __fh_verify().  So they get handled exactly the same way for LOCALIO
+   as they do for non-LOCALIO.
+
 RPC
 ===
 
-- 
2.44.0


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-08-31 22:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-31 22:37 [PATCH v15 00/26] nfs/nfsd: add support for LOCALIO Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 01/26] nfs_common: factor out nfs_errtbl and nfs_stat_to_errno Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 02/26] nfs_common: factor out nfs4_errtbl and nfs4_stat_to_errno Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 03/26] nfs: factor out {encode,decode}_opaque_fixed to nfs_xdr.h Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 04/26] NFSD: Handle @rqstp == NULL in check_nfsd_access() Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 05/26] NFSD: Refactor nfsd_setuser_and_check_port() Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 06/26] NFSD: Avoid using rqstp->rq_vers in nfsd_set_fh_dentry() Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 07/26] NFSD: Short-circuit fh_verify tracepoints for LOCALIO Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 08/26] nfsd: factor out __fh_verify to allow NULL rqstp to be passed Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 09/26] nfsd: add nfsd_file_acquire_local() Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 10/26] nfsd: add nfsd_serv_try_get and nfsd_serv_put Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 11/26] SUNRPC: remove call_allocate() BUG_ONs Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 12/26] SUNRPC: add svcauth_map_clnt_to_svc_cred_local Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 13/26] SUNRPC: replace program list with program array Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 14/26] nfs_common: add NFS LOCALIO auxiliary protocol enablement Mike Snitzer
2024-09-01 23:25   ` NeilBrown
2024-09-03 16:33     ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 19:24   ` Anna Schumaker
2024-09-05 19:38     ` Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 15/26] nfs_common: prepare for the NFS client to use nfsd_file for LOCALIO Mike Snitzer
2024-09-01 23:37   ` NeilBrown
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 16/26] nfsd: add LOCALIO support Mike Snitzer
2024-09-01 23:46   ` NeilBrown
2024-09-03 14:34   ` Chuck Lever
2024-09-03 14:40     ` Jeff Layton
2024-09-03 15:00       ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-03 15:19         ` Jeff Layton
2024-09-03 15:29           ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-03 15:59             ` Chuck Lever III
2024-09-03 16:09               ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-03 17:07                 ` Chuck Lever III
2024-09-03 22:31               ` NeilBrown
2024-09-04  5:01                 ` NeilBrown
2024-09-04 13:47                   ` Chuck Lever
2024-09-05 14:21                     ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 15:41                       ` Chuck Lever III
2024-09-05 23:34                       ` NeilBrown
2024-09-06 15:04                         ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-06 18:07                           ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-06 21:56                             ` NeilBrown
2024-09-06 22:33                               ` Chuck Lever III
2024-09-06 23:14                                 ` NeilBrown
2024-09-07 15:17                                   ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-07 16:09                                     ` Chuck Lever III
2024-09-07 19:08                                       ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-07 21:12                                         ` Chuck Lever III
2024-09-08 15:05                                           ` Chuck Lever III
2024-09-07 15:52                               ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-04 13:54                   ` Jeff Layton
2024-09-04 13:56                     ` Chuck Lever III
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 17/26] nfsd: implement server support for NFS_LOCALIO_PROGRAM Mike Snitzer
2024-09-03 14:11   ` Chuck Lever
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 18/26] nfs: pass struct nfsd_file to nfs_init_pgio and nfs_init_commit Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 19/26] nfs: add LOCALIO support Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 20/26] nfs: enable localio for non-pNFS IO Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 21/26] pnfs/flexfiles: enable localio support Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 22/26] nfs/localio: use dedicated workqueues for filesystem read and write Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 23/26] nfs: implement client support for NFS_LOCALIO_PROGRAM Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 24/26] nfs: add Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 26/26] nfs: add "NFS Client and Server Interlock" section to localio.rst Mike Snitzer
2024-09-01 23:52 ` [PATCH v15 00/26] nfs/nfsd: add support for LOCALIO NeilBrown
2024-09-03 14:49 ` Jeff Layton
2024-09-06 19:31 ` Anna Schumaker
2024-09-06 20:34   ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-06 21:09     ` Chuck Lever III
2024-09-10 16:45     ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-10 19:14       ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-10 19:24         ` Anna Schumaker
2024-09-10 20:31         ` Anna Schumaker
2024-09-10 22:11           ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-11 17:51             ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-11 18:48               ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-13 18:12                 ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-11  0:43   ` NeilBrown
2024-09-11 16:03     ` Chuck Lever III
2024-09-12 23:31       ` NeilBrown
2024-09-12 23:42         ` Chuck Lever III
2024-09-13 12:27           ` Mike Snitzer

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