From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
To: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
Anna Schumaker <anna@kernel.org>,
Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>,
NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [PATCH v15 25/26] nfs: add FAQ section to Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 18:37:45 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240831223755.8569-26-snitzer@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240831223755.8569-1-snitzer@kernel.org>
From: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com>
Add a FAQ section to give answers to questions that have been raised
during review of the localio feature.
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com>
Co-developed-by: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
Signed-off-by: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
---
Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst | 86 +++++++++++++++++++++++
1 file changed, 86 insertions(+)
diff --git a/Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst b/Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst
index 3c9bc370079b..ef3851d48133 100644
--- a/Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst
+++ b/Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst
@@ -64,6 +64,92 @@ fio for 20 secs with directio, qd of 8, 1 libaio thread:
128K read: IOPS=24.4k, BW=3050MiB/s (3198MB/s)(59.6GiB/20001msec)
128K write: IOPS=11.4k, BW=1430MiB/s (1500MB/s)(27.9GiB/20001msec)
+FAQ
+===
+
+1. What are the use cases for LOCALIO?
+
+ a. Workloads where the NFS client and server are on the same host
+ realize improved IO performance. In particular, it is common when
+ running containerised workloads for jobs to find themselves
+ running on the same host as the knfsd server being used for
+ storage.
+
+2. What are the requirements for LOCALIO?
+
+ a. Bypass use of the network RPC protocol as much as possible. This
+ includes bypassing XDR and RPC for open, read, write and commit
+ operations.
+ b. Allow client and server to autonomously discover if they are
+ running local to each other without making any assumptions about
+ the local network topology.
+ c. Support the use of containers by being compatible with relevant
+ namespaces (e.g. network, user, mount).
+ d. Support all versions of NFS. NFSv3 is of particular importance
+ because it has wide enterprise usage and pNFS flexfiles makes use
+ of it for the data path.
+
+3. Why doesn’t LOCALIO just compare IP addresses or hostnames when
+ deciding if the NFS client and server are co-located on the same
+ host?
+
+ Since one of the main use cases is containerised workloads, we cannot
+ assume that IP addresses will be shared between the client and
+ server. This sets up a requirement for a handshake protocol that
+ needs to go over the same connection as the NFS traffic in order to
+ identify that the client and the server really are running on the
+ same host. The handshake uses a secret that is sent over the wire,
+ and can be verified by both parties by comparing with a value stored
+ in shared kernel memory if they are truly co-located.
+
+4. Does LOCALIO improve pNFS flexfiles?
+
+ Yes, LOCALIO complements pNFS flexfiles by allowing it to take
+ advantage of NFS client and server locality. Policy that initiates
+ client IO as closely to the server where the data is stored naturally
+ benefits from the data path optimization LOCALIO provides.
+
+5. Why not develop a new pNFS layout to enable LOCALIO?
+
+ A new pNFS layout could be developed, but doing so would put the
+ onus on the server to somehow discover that the client is co-located
+ when deciding to hand out the layout.
+ There is value in a simpler approach (as provided by LOCALIO) that
+ allows the NFS client to negotiate and leverage locality without
+ requiring more elaborate modeling and discovery of such locality in a
+ more centralized manner.
+
+6. Why is having the client perform a server-side file OPEN, without
+ using RPC, beneficial? Is the benefit pNFS specific?
+
+ Avoiding the use of XDR and RPC for file opens is beneficial to
+ performance regardless of whether pNFS is used. Especially when
+ dealing with small files its best to avoid going over the wire
+ whenever possible, otherwise it could reduce or even negate the
+ benefits of avoiding the wire for doing the small file I/O itself.
+ Given LOCALIO's requirements the current approach of having the
+ client perform a server-side file open, without using RPC, is ideal.
+ If in the future requirements change then we can adapt accordingly.
+
+7. Why is LOCALIO only supported with UNIX Authentication (AUTH_UNIX)?
+
+ Strong authentication is usually tied to the connection itself. It
+ works by establishing a context that is cached by the server, and
+ that acts as the key for discovering the authorisation token, which
+ can then be passed to rpc.mountd to complete the authentication
+ process. On the other hand, in the case of AUTH_UNIX, the credential
+ that was passed over the wire is used directly as the key in the
+ upcall to rpc.mountd. This simplifies the authentication process, and
+ so makes AUTH_UNIX easier to support.
+
+8. How do export options that translate RPC user IDs behave for LOCALIO
+ operations (eg. root_squash, all_squash)?
+
+ Export options that translate user IDs are managed by nfsd_setuser()
+ which is called by nfsd_setuser_and_check_port() which is called by
+ __fh_verify(). So they get handled exactly the same way for LOCALIO
+ as they do for non-LOCALIO.
+
RPC
===
--
2.44.0
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-08-31 22:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-31 22:37 [PATCH v15 00/26] nfs/nfsd: add support for LOCALIO Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 01/26] nfs_common: factor out nfs_errtbl and nfs_stat_to_errno Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 02/26] nfs_common: factor out nfs4_errtbl and nfs4_stat_to_errno Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 03/26] nfs: factor out {encode,decode}_opaque_fixed to nfs_xdr.h Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 04/26] NFSD: Handle @rqstp == NULL in check_nfsd_access() Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 05/26] NFSD: Refactor nfsd_setuser_and_check_port() Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 06/26] NFSD: Avoid using rqstp->rq_vers in nfsd_set_fh_dentry() Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 07/26] NFSD: Short-circuit fh_verify tracepoints for LOCALIO Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 08/26] nfsd: factor out __fh_verify to allow NULL rqstp to be passed Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 09/26] nfsd: add nfsd_file_acquire_local() Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 10/26] nfsd: add nfsd_serv_try_get and nfsd_serv_put Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 11/26] SUNRPC: remove call_allocate() BUG_ONs Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 12/26] SUNRPC: add svcauth_map_clnt_to_svc_cred_local Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 13/26] SUNRPC: replace program list with program array Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 14/26] nfs_common: add NFS LOCALIO auxiliary protocol enablement Mike Snitzer
2024-09-01 23:25 ` NeilBrown
2024-09-03 16:33 ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 19:24 ` Anna Schumaker
2024-09-05 19:38 ` Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 15/26] nfs_common: prepare for the NFS client to use nfsd_file for LOCALIO Mike Snitzer
2024-09-01 23:37 ` NeilBrown
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 16/26] nfsd: add LOCALIO support Mike Snitzer
2024-09-01 23:46 ` NeilBrown
2024-09-03 14:34 ` Chuck Lever
2024-09-03 14:40 ` Jeff Layton
2024-09-03 15:00 ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-03 15:19 ` Jeff Layton
2024-09-03 15:29 ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-03 15:59 ` Chuck Lever III
2024-09-03 16:09 ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-03 17:07 ` Chuck Lever III
2024-09-03 22:31 ` NeilBrown
2024-09-04 5:01 ` NeilBrown
2024-09-04 13:47 ` Chuck Lever
2024-09-05 14:21 ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 15:41 ` Chuck Lever III
2024-09-05 23:34 ` NeilBrown
2024-09-06 15:04 ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-06 18:07 ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-06 21:56 ` NeilBrown
2024-09-06 22:33 ` Chuck Lever III
2024-09-06 23:14 ` NeilBrown
2024-09-07 15:17 ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-07 16:09 ` Chuck Lever III
2024-09-07 19:08 ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-07 21:12 ` Chuck Lever III
2024-09-08 15:05 ` Chuck Lever III
2024-09-07 15:52 ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-04 13:54 ` Jeff Layton
2024-09-04 13:56 ` Chuck Lever III
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 17/26] nfsd: implement server support for NFS_LOCALIO_PROGRAM Mike Snitzer
2024-09-03 14:11 ` Chuck Lever
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 18/26] nfs: pass struct nfsd_file to nfs_init_pgio and nfs_init_commit Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 19/26] nfs: add LOCALIO support Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 20/26] nfs: enable localio for non-pNFS IO Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 21/26] pnfs/flexfiles: enable localio support Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 22/26] nfs/localio: use dedicated workqueues for filesystem read and write Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 23/26] nfs: implement client support for NFS_LOCALIO_PROGRAM Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 24/26] nfs: add Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 26/26] nfs: add "NFS Client and Server Interlock" section to localio.rst Mike Snitzer
2024-09-01 23:52 ` [PATCH v15 00/26] nfs/nfsd: add support for LOCALIO NeilBrown
2024-09-03 14:49 ` Jeff Layton
2024-09-06 19:31 ` Anna Schumaker
2024-09-06 20:34 ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-06 21:09 ` Chuck Lever III
2024-09-10 16:45 ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-10 19:14 ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-10 19:24 ` Anna Schumaker
2024-09-10 20:31 ` Anna Schumaker
2024-09-10 22:11 ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-11 17:51 ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-11 18:48 ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-13 18:12 ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-11 0:43 ` NeilBrown
2024-09-11 16:03 ` Chuck Lever III
2024-09-12 23:31 ` NeilBrown
2024-09-12 23:42 ` Chuck Lever III
2024-09-13 12:27 ` Mike Snitzer
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