From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Gao Xiang <hsiangkao@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: Yiyang Wu <toolmanp@tlmp.cc>,
linux-erofs@lists.ozlabs.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 19/24] erofs: introduce namei alternative to C
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 08:31:49 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240917073149.GD3107530@ZenIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1edf9fe3-5e39-463b-8825-67b4d1ad01be@linux.alibaba.com>
On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 03:14:58PM +0800, Gao Xiang wrote:
> > Sorry for my ignorance.
> > I mean i just borrowed the code from the fs/erofs/namei.c and i directly
> > translated that into Rust code. That might be a problem that also
> > exists in original working C code.
>
> As for EROFS (an immutable fs), I think after d_splice_alias(), d_name is
> still stable (since we don't have rename semantics likewise for now).
Even on corrupted images? If you have two directories with entries that
act as hardlinks to the same subdirectory, and keep hitting them on lookups,
it will have to transplant the subtree between the parents.
> But as the generic filesystem POV, d_name access is actually tricky under
> RCU walk path indeed.
->lookup() is never called in RCU mode.
> > That's kinda interesting, I originally thought that VFS will make sure
> > its d_name / d_parent is stable in the first place.
> > Again, I just don't have a full picture or understanding of VFS and my
> > code is just basic translation of original C code, Maybe we can address
> > this later.
>
> d_alloc will allocate an unhashed dentry which is almost unrecognized
> by VFS dcache (d_name is stable of course).
>
> After d_splice_alias() and d_add(), rename() could change d_name. So
> either we take d_lock or with rcu_read_lock() to take a snapshot of
> d_name in the RCU walk path. That is my overall understanding.
No, it's more complicated than that, sadly. ->d_name and ->d_parent are
the trickiest parts of dentry field stability.
> But for EROFS, since we don't have rename, so it doesn't matter.
See above. IF we could guarantee that all filesystem images are valid
and will remain so, life would be much simpler.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-17 7:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-16 13:56 [RFC PATCH 00/24] erofs: introduce Rust implementation Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 01/24] erofs: lift up erofs_fill_inode to global Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 02/24] erofs: add superblock data structure in Rust Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 17:55 ` Greg KH
2024-09-17 0:18 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-17 5:34 ` Greg KH
2024-09-17 5:45 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-17 5:27 ` Yiyang Wu
2024-09-17 5:39 ` Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 03/24] erofs: add Errno " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 17:51 ` Greg KH
2024-09-16 23:45 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-20 2:49 ` [PATCH RESEND 0/1] rust: introduce declare_err! autogeneration Yiyang Wu
2024-09-20 2:49 ` [PATCH RESEND 1/1] rust: error: auto-generate error declarations Yiyang Wu
2024-09-20 2:57 ` [RFC PATCH 03/24] erofs: add Errno in Rust Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 20:01 ` Gary Guo
2024-09-16 23:58 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-19 13:45 ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-19 15:13 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-19 19:36 ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-20 0:49 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-21 8:37 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-09-21 9:29 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-25 15:48 ` Ariel Miculas
2024-09-25 16:35 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-25 21:45 ` Ariel Miculas
2024-09-26 0:40 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-26 1:04 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-26 8:10 ` Ariel Miculas
2024-09-26 8:25 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-26 9:51 ` Ariel Miculas
2024-09-26 10:46 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-26 11:01 ` Ariel Miculas
2024-09-26 11:05 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-26 11:23 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-26 12:50 ` Ariel Miculas
2024-09-27 2:18 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-26 8:48 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 04/24] erofs: add xattrs data structure " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 05/24] erofs: add inode " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-18 13:04 ` [External Mail][RFC " Huang Jianan
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 06/24] erofs: add alloc_helper " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 07/24] erofs: add data abstraction " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 08/24] erofs: add device data structure " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 09/24] erofs: add continuous iterators " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 10/24] erofs: add device_infos implementation " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-21 9:44 ` Jianan Huang
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 11/24] erofs: add map data structure " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 12/24] erofs: add directory entry " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 13/24] erofs: add runtime filesystem and inode " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 14/24] erofs: add block mapping capability " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 15/24] erofs: add iter methods in filesystem " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 16/24] erofs: implement dir and inode operations " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 17/24] erofs: introduce Rust SBI to C Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 18/24] erofs: introduce iget alternative " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 19/24] erofs: introduce namei " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 17:08 ` Al Viro
2024-09-17 6:48 ` Yiyang Wu
2024-09-17 7:14 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-17 7:31 ` Al Viro [this message]
2024-09-17 7:44 ` Al Viro
2024-09-17 8:08 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-17 22:22 ` Al Viro
2024-09-17 8:06 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 20/24] erofs: introduce readdir " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 21/24] erofs: introduce erofs_map_blocks " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 22/24] erofs: add skippable iters in Rust Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 23/24] erofs: implement xattrs operations " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 24/24] erofs: introduce xattrs replacement to C Yiyang Wu
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