From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Gao Xiang <hsiangkao@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: Yiyang Wu <toolmanp@tlmp.cc>,
linux-erofs@lists.ozlabs.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 19/24] erofs: introduce namei alternative to C
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 08:44:29 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240917074429.GE3107530@ZenIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240917073149.GD3107530@ZenIV>
On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 08:31:49AM +0100, Al Viro wrote:
> > After d_splice_alias() and d_add(), rename() could change d_name. So
> > either we take d_lock or with rcu_read_lock() to take a snapshot of
> > d_name in the RCU walk path. That is my overall understanding.
>
> No, it's more complicated than that, sadly. ->d_name and ->d_parent are
> the trickiest parts of dentry field stability.
>
> > But for EROFS, since we don't have rename, so it doesn't matter.
>
> See above. IF we could guarantee that all filesystem images are valid
> and will remain so, life would be much simpler.
In any case, currently it is safe - d_splice_alias() is the last thing
done by erofs_lookup(). Just don't assume that names can't change in
there - and the fewer places in filesystem touch ->d_name, the better.
In practice, for ->lookup() you are safe until after d_splice_alias()
and for directory-modifying operations you are safe unless you start
playing insane games with unlocking and relocking the parent directories
(apparmorfs does; the locking is really obnoxious there). That covers
the majority of ->d_name and ->d_parent accesses in filesystem code.
->d_hash() and ->d_compare() are separate story; I've posted a text on
that last year (or this winter - not sure, will check once I get some
sleep).
d_path() et.al. are taking care to do the right thing; those (and %pd
format) can be used safely.
Anyway, I'm half-asleep at the moment and I'd rather leave writing these
rules up until tomorrow. Sorry...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-17 7:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-16 13:56 [RFC PATCH 00/24] erofs: introduce Rust implementation Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 01/24] erofs: lift up erofs_fill_inode to global Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 02/24] erofs: add superblock data structure in Rust Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 17:55 ` Greg KH
2024-09-17 0:18 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-17 5:34 ` Greg KH
2024-09-17 5:45 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-17 5:27 ` Yiyang Wu
2024-09-17 5:39 ` Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 03/24] erofs: add Errno " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 17:51 ` Greg KH
2024-09-16 23:45 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-20 2:49 ` [PATCH RESEND 0/1] rust: introduce declare_err! autogeneration Yiyang Wu
2024-09-20 2:49 ` [PATCH RESEND 1/1] rust: error: auto-generate error declarations Yiyang Wu
2024-09-20 2:57 ` [RFC PATCH 03/24] erofs: add Errno in Rust Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 20:01 ` Gary Guo
2024-09-16 23:58 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-19 13:45 ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-19 15:13 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-19 19:36 ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-20 0:49 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-21 8:37 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-09-21 9:29 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-25 15:48 ` Ariel Miculas
2024-09-25 16:35 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-25 21:45 ` Ariel Miculas
2024-09-26 0:40 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-26 1:04 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-26 8:10 ` Ariel Miculas
2024-09-26 8:25 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-26 9:51 ` Ariel Miculas
2024-09-26 10:46 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-26 11:01 ` Ariel Miculas
2024-09-26 11:05 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-26 11:23 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-26 12:50 ` Ariel Miculas
2024-09-27 2:18 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-26 8:48 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 04/24] erofs: add xattrs data structure " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 05/24] erofs: add inode " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-18 13:04 ` [External Mail][RFC " Huang Jianan
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 06/24] erofs: add alloc_helper " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 07/24] erofs: add data abstraction " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 08/24] erofs: add device data structure " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 09/24] erofs: add continuous iterators " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 10/24] erofs: add device_infos implementation " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-21 9:44 ` Jianan Huang
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 11/24] erofs: add map data structure " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 12/24] erofs: add directory entry " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 13/24] erofs: add runtime filesystem and inode " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 14/24] erofs: add block mapping capability " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 15/24] erofs: add iter methods in filesystem " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 16/24] erofs: implement dir and inode operations " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 17/24] erofs: introduce Rust SBI to C Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 18/24] erofs: introduce iget alternative " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 19/24] erofs: introduce namei " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 17:08 ` Al Viro
2024-09-17 6:48 ` Yiyang Wu
2024-09-17 7:14 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-17 7:31 ` Al Viro
2024-09-17 7:44 ` Al Viro [this message]
2024-09-17 8:08 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-17 22:22 ` Al Viro
2024-09-17 8:06 ` Gao Xiang
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 20/24] erofs: introduce readdir " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 21/24] erofs: introduce erofs_map_blocks " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 22/24] erofs: add skippable iters in Rust Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 23/24] erofs: implement xattrs operations " Yiyang Wu
2024-09-16 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 24/24] erofs: introduce xattrs replacement to C Yiyang Wu
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