From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from verein.lst.de (verein.lst.de [213.95.11.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 535CC1D0BB5; Wed, 2 Oct 2024 15:19:55 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=213.95.11.211 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1727882397; cv=none; b=U9gAIflCdvVZX63WxlyKs7usnlpRMq0PQE6fMU6EYqh9g/xaX9HXv04dv0X8ky0HrurYMweGT2ESFvTR9Dv2cJECO1BoGLWMNbhlSmv40o21I5yquwGKHFmuGssxi0ICXWL9Ibp0Ioa45fanEVNOf6OlFA7xwQEsfBK3qX804DE= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1727882397; c=relaxed/simple; bh=TNhJ5fp2dr3urC4Z9UzCEpZvppC3NxZ3lh0UEr7ZNeQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=cQI9zr+BZorjaryIna+LmyLzdEdM4bf+9vSp+wisTXYUC3EGUhMFAj831PxrbhtWYpPQ2LGQagHkmSH7R1lgkaSi/y0Tm3UvA0lbwkfuIkK+3DMs/17q1Jxr03BOUgHzBkuByFNY6iRlJh/U3lHZ1hSK8DXnh06wxltbCP70qPE= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=lst.de; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lst.de; arc=none smtp.client-ip=213.95.11.211 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=lst.de Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lst.de Received: by verein.lst.de (Postfix, from userid 2407) id 169C6227AB1; Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:19:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:19:49 +0200 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Keith Busch Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Jens Axboe , Kanchan Joshi , hare@suse.de, sagi@grimberg.me, martin.petersen@oracle.com, brauner@kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, jack@suse.cz, jaegeuk@kernel.org, bcrl@kvack.org, dhowells@redhat.com, bvanassche@acm.org, asml.silence@gmail.com, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, io-uring@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-aio@kvack.org, gost.dev@samsung.com, vishak.g@samsung.com, javier.gonz@samsung.com Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 0/3] FDP and per-io hints Message-ID: <20241002151949.GA20877@lst.de> References: <20240930181305.17286-1-joshi.k@samsung.com> <20241001092047.GA23730@lst.de> <99c95f26-d6fb-4354-822d-eac94fdba765@kernel.dk> <20241002075140.GB20819@lst.de> <20241002151344.GA20364@lst.de> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) On Wed, Oct 02, 2024 at 09:17:35AM -0600, Keith Busch wrote: > On Wed, Oct 02, 2024 at 05:13:44PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > > > Well, he finally started on the right approach and gave it up after the > > first round of feedback. That's just a bit weird. > > Nothing prevents future improvements in that direction. It just seems > out of scope for what Kanchan is trying to enable for his customer use > cases. This patch looks harmless. It's not really. Once we wire it up like this we mess up the ability to use the feature in other ways. Additionally the per-I/O hints are simply broken if you want a file system in the way as last time, and if I don't misremember you acknowledged in person last week.