From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from verein.lst.de (verein.lst.de [213.95.11.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57F7C4DA00; Fri, 4 Oct 2024 06:24:23 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=213.95.11.211 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1728023065; cv=none; b=RsM6CuMhuj/eXg8roWkxf4aBzUf8uwNNaWmM+WPkKScZbYuHuKkawqlWOAcGhESAEBInqpWHk1cFOKGg3mQH5mZHo/30hEOY6fGLGQ+P1k2mseZJYrDPJyyJAaKcYu1mTAxMaaxJJvBzN/rA7LcnsNtY4tw0D/loD9m9qzd8y9U= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1728023065; c=relaxed/simple; bh=5o3T5RyacadqNdFdXd1+rCRnTJLj+4F4aL6truNMKEs=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=QZd2G5SdgXjUOVR3dMOdBk/XYCnS7zgBq2gpS3pWTbWeY9hvD7Lti6MoX6EbebtqjNGEJCPLBy2gwpWEsp5R4SbSfZ0e5QGk8zZxv5wSuMpwuTsczPd6xqy+t2gzMq+8Xga4HqAXHZTAm42auRpTBu2+81edXZPFK0L+92EvSUQ= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=lst.de; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lst.de; arc=none smtp.client-ip=213.95.11.211 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=lst.de Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lst.de Received: by verein.lst.de (Postfix, from userid 2407) id 44FFD227A87; Fri, 4 Oct 2024 08:24:16 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2024 08:24:15 +0200 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Javier =?iso-8859-1?Q?Gonz=E1lez?= Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Bart Van Assche , "Martin K. Petersen" , Keith Busch , Jens Axboe , Kanchan Joshi , hare@suse.de, sagi@grimberg.me, brauner@kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, jack@suse.cz, jaegeuk@kernel.org, bcrl@kvack.org, dhowells@redhat.com, asml.silence@gmail.com, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, io-uring@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-aio@kvack.org, gost.dev@samsung.com, vishak.g@samsung.com Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 0/3] FDP and per-io hints Message-ID: <20241004062415.GA14876@lst.de> References: <20241002075140.GB20819@lst.de> <20241002151344.GA20364@lst.de> <20241002151949.GA20877@lst.de> <20241003125516.GC17031@lst.de> <20241004062129.z4n6xi4i2ck4nuqh@ArmHalley.local> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20241004062129.z4n6xi4i2ck4nuqh@ArmHalley.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) On Fri, Oct 04, 2024 at 08:21:29AM +0200, Javier González wrote: >> So I think some peoples bonuses depend on not understanding the problem >> I fear :( >> > > Please, don't. > > Childish comments like this delegitimize the work that a lot of people > are doing in Linux. It's the only very sarcastic explanation I can come up with to explain this discussion, where people from the exactly two companies where this might be bonus material love political discussion and drop dead when it turns technical. I'm probably wrong, but I've run out of other explanations.