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From: "Mickaël Salaün" <mic@digikod.net>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
Cc: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	 Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, audit@vger.kernel.org,
	Trond Myklebust <trondmy@kernel.org>,
	 Anna Schumaker <anna@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	 Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 1/7] fs: Add inode_get_ino() and implement get_ino() for NFS
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 17:26:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241011.Zath4ceey7ah@digikod.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7b379fd1-d596-4c19-80fc-53838175834e@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 11:27:45PM +0900, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> On 2024/10/11 20:04, Mickaël Salaün wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 07:12:17PM +0900, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> >> On 2024/10/11 0:26, Mickaël Salaün wrote:
> >>> When a filesystem manages its own inode numbers, like NFS's fileid shown
> >>> to user space with getattr(), other part of the kernel may still expose
> >>> the private inode->ino through kernel logs and audit.
> >>
> >> I can't catch what you are trying to do. What is wrong with that?
> > 
> > My understanding is that tomoyo_get_attributes() is used to log or
> > expose access requests to user space, including inode numbers.  Is that
> > correct?  If yes, then the inode numbers might not reflect what user
> > space sees with stat(2).
> 
> Several questions because I've never seen inode number beyond UINT_MAX...
> 
> Since "struct inode"->i_ino is "unsigned long" (which is 32bits on 32-bit
> architectures), despite stat(2) is ready to receive inode number as 64bits,
> filesystems (except NFS) did not use inode numbers beyond UINT_MAX until now
> so that fs/stat.c will not hit -EOVERFLOW condition, and that resulted in
> misuse of %lu for e.g. audit logs?

Yes, I think other filesystems (e.g. tmpfs) only enable 64-bit inodes on
64-bit architectures.

> 
> But NFS was already using inode numbers beyond UINT_MAX, and e.g. audit logs
> had been recording incorrect values when NFS is used?

Correct, all the logs with NFS inodes are wrong.

> 
> Or, some filesystems are already using inode numbers beyond UINT_MAX but the
> capacity limitation on 32-bit architectures practically prevented users from
> creating/mounting filesystems with so many inodes enough to require inode
> numbers going beyond UINT_MAX?

I think so but I didn't take a look at all other filesystems.

> 
> 
> 
> You are trying to fix out-of-sync between stat(2) and e.g. audit logs
> rather than introducing new feature, aren't you?

Yes

> 
> Then, what you are trying to do is OK, but TOMOYO side needs more changes.
> Since TOMOYO is currently handling any numeric values (e.g. uid, gid, device
> major/minor number, inode number, ioctl's cmd number) as "unsigned long",
> most of "unsigned long" usage in TOMOYO needs to be updated to use "u64"
> because you are about to change inode number values to always-64bits.
> 

OK, could you please send a full patch in reply to this email?  I'll
include it in the next patch series.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-10-11 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-10 15:26 [RFC PATCH v1 1/7] fs: Add inode_get_ino() and implement get_ino() for NFS Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-10 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 2/7] audit: Fix inode numbers Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-11  1:20   ` [PATCH RFC " Paul Moore
2024-10-11  1:38     ` Paul Moore
2024-10-11 21:34   ` [RFC PATCH " Paul Moore
2024-10-14 13:30     ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-14 23:36       ` Paul Moore
2024-10-10 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 3/7] selinux: Fix inode numbers in error messages Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-11  1:20   ` [PATCH RFC " Paul Moore
2024-10-10 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 4/7] integrity: Fix inode numbers in audit records Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-11  1:20   ` [PATCH RFC " Paul Moore
2024-10-11 10:15     ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-11 11:34       ` Roberto Sassu
2024-10-11 12:38         ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-11 12:45           ` Roberto Sassu
2024-10-10 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 5/7] ipe: " Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-10 17:44   ` Fan Wu
2024-10-10 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 6/7] smack: Fix inode numbers in logs Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-10 17:18   ` Casey Schaufler
2024-10-10 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 7/7] tomoyo: " Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-12  7:35   ` [PATCH] tomoyo: use u64 for handling numeric values Tetsuo Handa
2024-10-14 13:59     ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-10 18:07 ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/7] fs: Add inode_get_ino() and implement get_ino() for NFS Anna Schumaker
2024-10-11 10:14   ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-10 19:28 ` Trond Myklebust
2024-10-11 10:15   ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-11 12:22     ` Trond Myklebust
2024-10-11 12:38       ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-11 12:43         ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-11 10:12 ` Tetsuo Handa
2024-10-11 10:54   ` Tetsuo Handa
2024-10-11 11:10     ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-11 11:04   ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-11 14:27     ` Tetsuo Handa
2024-10-11 15:13       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-11 15:26       ` Mickaël Salaün [this message]
2024-10-11 12:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-11 12:47   ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-11 12:54     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-11 13:20       ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-11 13:23         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-11 13:52           ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-11 14:39             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-11 15:30               ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-11 15:34                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-14 14:35                   ` Christian Brauner
2024-10-14 14:36                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-13 10:17                 ` Jeff Layton
2024-10-14  8:40                   ` Burn Alting
2024-10-14  9:02                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-14 12:12                       ` Burn Alting
2024-10-14 12:17                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-14 13:13                           ` Mickaël Salaün
     [not found]                   ` <9c3bc3b7-2e79-4423-b8eb-f9f6249ee5bf@iinet.net.au>
2024-10-14 10:22                     ` Jeff Layton
2024-10-14 14:45                   ` Christian Brauner
2024-10-14 15:27                     ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-16  0:15                     ` Paul Moore
2024-10-14 14:47 ` Christian Brauner
2024-10-14 17:51   ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-16 14:23 ` Christian Brauner
2024-10-16 23:05   ` Paul Moore
2024-10-17 14:30     ` Trond Myklebust
2024-10-17 14:54       ` Paul Moore
2024-10-17 14:58         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-17 15:15           ` Paul Moore
2024-10-17 15:25             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-17 16:43               ` Jan Kara
2024-10-18  5:15                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-21 13:17                 ` Christian Brauner
2024-10-17 17:05             ` Jeff Layton
2024-10-17 17:09               ` Trond Myklebust
2024-10-17 17:59                 ` Jeff Layton
2024-10-17 21:06                   ` Trond Myklebust
2024-10-18  5:18                 ` hch
2024-10-17 20:21               ` Paul Moore
2024-10-18 12:25                 ` Jan Kara
2024-10-21 13:13                   ` Christian Brauner
2024-10-21 14:04               ` Christian Brauner
2024-10-17 14:56   ` Christoph Hellwig

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